need help time stretching?

whenever i try it the sample ends up choppy and a little distorted. is this bcuz i am not gettin the tempos right?

Before you execute a timestretch, you need to figure out the original temo of the sample you want to use. If it's a loop, program a sequence and let it loop until it sounds right to get the tempo. Or you can use the tap tempo function.

For time stretching itself: When slowing down a sample, meaning, making it longer in time has negative effects, because missing time data has to be replaced by streching the waveform along the timeline and this can deform or fragment the wave so it sounds unnatural. Speeding the sample up on the other hand does not have as much negative effects on the sample for the same reason, but vice versa

i ignore the tempo and just earball it

Antonym wrote:i ignore the tempo and just earball it

Even for timestretching??

Antonym wrote:i ignore the tempo and just earball it

A lot of people can't do that by ear.

yeah even for timestretching. i find it a major pain to detect/determine sample's tempos. i just force them to play by my rules. if i chop a sample and some of the chops don't reach the full length they're sposed to, i stretch em by 10 bpms or so. first i shoot small, try it, then i shoot long, try it, and if i haven't gotten what i like yet, i try something in the middle. it's "triangulating." purge the unwanted during your next purge session and you're done.

bpm numbers are never floating in my head when i'm working on tunes. this is unfortunately why i absolutely sucked at the sp404, but simultaneously why i feel like i can treat the mpc1000 like a magic carpet.

but remember, i'm not dumping 7 second loops on single pads. if i'm stretching, i'm stretching single note chops. unfortunately, if you stretch 1 chop to compensate for all other chops, you can get 1 chop that sounds

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at this point, i rarely do timestretching at all anymore because we have Alternate Loop, which sounds a LOT better than timestretching on oneshots when the loop point is properly set.

set all pads to NOTE ON, set your alternate loops, and then replay your sample. then go through and adjust the duration (if it was an even 16 chop, you can just go to sequence edit and hit DURATION: ALL: 48 or 24 or 96 depending on your chopping length)

megaman - timestretching too much is going to make your loops sound stretched. you can do it, but only to "nudge" not to "shove."

tune, timestretching, note nudging, decay, attack, MONO or POLY programs, ONESHOT or NOTE ON, and Alternate Loop all play serious and integral parts in making a sample play smoothly once it's been chopped.

Antonym wrote:tune, timestretching, note nudging, decay, attack, MONO or POLY programs, ONESHOT or NOTE ON, and Alternate Loop all play serious and integral parts in making a sample play smoothly once it's been chopped.

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you really can't love making beats but hate technical stuff.

Ya still gotta do ya math. the machine can do it for you... but tap tempo... plays a wonderful role in solving the time equation...



all ya gotta do is hear the sample 1st and nudge the tempo as you go!


it takes a min to get that down pat.


jus tap ya foot or, nod ya head.




works wonders!!!

If you don't need a certain tempo but just to slow down or speed up the sample a lil bit, you can just set original tempo to 100 and then think in percentage - 10 % faster is 110 bpm etc.

For loops: the manual tempo detect works just fine.

Knowing how to count music helps.

Like knowing what a "Bar" is.