same sample but different start point on each pad

Just go retro and install JJ OS mpc1000ex.bin and run the wp1000.bos or vc1000.bos CF drive extensions.

Assigns start, end, speed and direction of sample playback to each individual pad.

Awful lot of stuff it doesn't do, too. But hey, it's retro......

elektrik_muz wrote:Just go retro and install JJ OS mpc1000ex.bin and run the wp1000.bos or vc1000.bos CF drive extensions.

Assigns start, end, speed and direction of sample playback to each individual pad.

Awful lot of stuff it doesn't do, too. But hey, it's retro......

I think I already read someone saying this but go to Mode+Slider and scroll to Note on and go through the options and you'll see where it says S.Start and there is also S.End. That's to adjust the sample Start and the sample end with the Qlink.

There it is. Anypad you want can be adjusted. I love this feature.

arebee wrote:

Sooty_G wrote:this would be aa great feature for the jj os. it could go under the "16 levels" feature. in addition to 'velocity', 'tune', 'filter', etc... there would be another option called 'sample start'.

to do this i set the vel>sstart in the amp env, then USE 16levels=velocity to acheive the same result, and then tweak the amp env>vel amount to get it where i want it.

i just want to say thanks a lot for this tip. it works great & is a pretty clever solution to the problem!

hereo wrote:I think I already read someone saying this but go to Mode+Slider and scroll to Note on and go through the options and you'll see where it says S.Start and there is also S.End. That's to adjust the sample Start and the sample end with the Qlink.

There it is. Anypad you want can be adjusted. I love this feature.

too bad you can't set an actual value for each pad (like pad03's start point is always set to "66", pad04's start point is always set to "35", etc....). the way it is now you have to edit each pad event every time its triggered either with the qlink in realtime, or in step edit.

if codespace wasn't an issue i'd still be screaming for this feature to be added, but obviously codespace is tight so there's no point.

its a shame though. working this way is the most comfortable workflow to me....

oh well...

i already suggested this to JJ months ago... non destructive chopping. here's the reply i got from JJ back on July 28th:


"Non-Destructive Chopping."
It knows that this affair has become the center of attention by the MPC
forum.
The preparation for this changed the TRIM screen.
The upper right of a screen is vacant in order that it may carry out
like the screen of TRIM which you sent.


However, in order to add a new function, there are many problems.
Example.

1.A not yet realizable request exists.
2.There is a bug which has not been corrected yet.
3.OS memory space for a new function is insufficient.
4.Compatibility with old OS.
Although the screen of MODE+PAD7 is made like your proposal.
Many change is required for MODE+PAD11.
If a user interface is changed, many claims It generates.
It is very difficult to add a new function, maintaining
compatibility.
5. A user's voice
A new function is unnecessary.Correct a bug! .
Don't change a user interface frequently! .
Don't delete a certain function now!
It is an addition troublesome to those who do not use CHOP.


6. The technical problem of software.

I have to take these things into consideration.
Much time is required to realize.
It may be unrealizable after all.
It is under thought now.
Therefore, it is impossible whether it is realizable of a reply.

Thank you for the format information on a WAV file.
It was helpful.
JJ

earwolf wrote:

elektrik_muz wrote:Just go retro and install JJ OS mpc1000ex.bin and run the wp1000.bos or vc1000.bos CF drive extensions.

Assigns start, end, speed and direction of sample playback to each individual pad.

Awful lot of stuff it doesn't do, too. But hey, it's retro......

Hah hah... Am I the only one on this thread that remembers the original JJ before it was JJ OS was essentially just a non-destructive chop-box routine? At least that tells us he knows how to do it.

Somebody should put those suckers back up for download along with the ms1000 utility program. I've still got 'em. Of course they are completely unsupported at this stage so don't expect any instructions from "JJ".

Sooty_G wrote:this would be aa great feature for the jj os. it could go under the "16 levels" feature. in addition to 'velocity', 'tune', 'filter', etc... there would be another option called 'sample start'.

>> I like that. Sooty, you should Post it in the Feature Request Thread also.

stan steez wrote:

Sooty_G wrote:this would be aa great feature for the jj os. it could go under the "16 levels" feature. in addition to 'velocity', 'tune', 'filter', etc... there would be another option called 'sample start'.

>> I like that. Sooty, you should Post it in the Feature Request Thread also.

dude, its already possible, just set amp env = vel>sstart =100, vel>level=0,

then get the sample into '16 levels' and away u go, a break chopped into 16 parts non-destructive, ( u might need to tweak the "vel>sstart =100" value for any loose breaks that aint on time)
rB)

oh and lock on the note repeat , so u can freak out with the bits! : ))

arebee wrote:set amp env = vel>sstart =100, vel>level=0,

then get the sample into '16 levels' and away u go, a break chopped into 16 parts non-destructive, ( u might need to tweak the "vel>sstart =100" value for any loose breaks that aint on time)
rB)

nice - would you mind explaining how to do this in a bit more detail (i've not had the mpc long and still don't have my head around it properly)? - where do i set the amp env etc?

ok, say u have a nice tidy breakbeat or loop, say a 2bar peice...

trim it so its tidy at the start n end,put it on a pad, set the pads amp env

(Mode+Pad7, F1 ; cursor to level ;press 'window')....

make 'velo>start=100','velo>level=0'.....

the first setting will make the vleocity level u hit the pad with move the start point around the sample - the harder u hit it - the closer to the real start u get...so 127=begining of the sample.....but also u dont want the velocity to vary the volume so the second value is for ensuring that.

now in the main page, u can hit the pad at diff velocities and feel the variation in the start points, to make it more regular

hit the '16 levels' button, choose the pad and select 'velocity',
now u will get 16 defined velocity values,each per pad 1-16....ideally each one will play the sample from a 16th of the break (8th if its a 2bar break),super convenient for catching kicks n snares, etc assuming the breaks quite regularly timed.

and u can allways guarantee that the downbeats at pad16, and the tail end is at pad1, all the bits are divided equally inbetween.

if its not quite on point, u may need to tweak the vel>start=100 value in order to catch the hits right in breaks that may be sourced form real drummers, or wasnt quantised tightly, but any homemade beats could be right on time, and work really well.

plus all this is dead easy to use and set up real quick.
pce
hope it works 4u
rB)