w/new pads who thinks

who thinks that the mp1k with new pads will last as long and be a front runner along with the 2000/3000/60?

i know that 4000 is the don! so i won't even compare but...

question; who has a classic beast that they beat on every day and still plays like a champ?
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do u think that the 1000's new pads will last for as long as your 2000/60/3000 mpc's?

this is not a better than you comparison, just many 1k users got jipped, yeah!

try them out in a store, see what you think.

otherwise all you have to judge by is other people's opinions...

check the 1000 vs 2500 thread for an in-depth examination of new/old pads.

hey i got a 1000.
and would u tell me where i can try out a 60 in a store?
really, why do people bother to give answers like that^?
i mean, if this question bothers u then couldn't u simply ignore it.
just was interested in what other's think, you know.
especially about longevity of pads in different machines and how they might compare with the 1k and new pads.

I have a 60 and a 2kXL. The pads on the 60 feel a lot better than those of the xl. That being said, I've been banging the pads of the xl for a few years now and never had the feeling they were poor built quality.

I've never had my hands on one of the newer mpc's though...

I've had my 1k over 2 years, and the work flow is incredible, its so fast, all the options (JJ <3 ) + portability.
I have tried 2k classic, it was cool, but too slow for me, pads were better though (surprise surprise)...

I haven't tried the new pads, but I'm gonna let you know when I get mine..

the new pads are great. Franklin Eventoff knows what he's doing.

http://www.sensitronics.com/

the rubber could be softer, and the mold could fit better, but as someone else said in the 1000 forum, the difference is "night and day."

while i think they're more expensive than they should be AND that old mpc1000 users shouldn't have to pay for them since the fix is being sold in new mpc1000s (hint - product name MPC1000bk-N), i also think they are of high quality. i personally enjoy them immensely and have seen a marked improvement in my live performance.

What about the MPC2500? Im going to buy a used MPC2500 very soon, and wonder if I should just buy one who is produced after a specific date to get the best pads?

Have akai done the same with the MPC2500, so it has better pads now, or does the MPC2500 already use great pads so akai never had to changed them?

Kun wrote:What about the MPC2500? Im going to buy a used MPC2500 very soon, and wonder if I should just buy one who is produced after a specific date to get the best pads?

Have akai done the same with the MPC2500, so it has better pads now, or does the MPC2500 already use great pads so akai never had to changed them?

I've only used a 2500 in a store, but my understanding is only the 1000 has pad problems. The 2500 used a good design from the start.

yep, what he said.

whoa, a little bit sensitive huh.

You can easily try the mpc1000 with new pads next to the 2500 pads in any guitar center. Then you will know that people's opinions on this subject are just the result of whether the faster workflow balances out the (still) crappy pads on the 1000. Maybe they are more durable, but they still don't compare to the 2000xl or 2500 pads.

Granted the 2000xl pads double trigger after a while.

All I said was try it out for yourself. If you would rather trust someone else's opinion on whether the mpc1000 is a "front runner" go ahead.

If you want my opinion....I think the mpc1000 has been a frontrunner for a while now, even with the old pads it was a great and well built machine. Besides, you could always mod them or get them repaired one at a time.

"still" crappy pads? disagreed. repeat: same rubber, same sensor structure is now used in the 1000 and 2500. both are FSRs made by Sensitronics. only difference is the rubber pad size (vertical). certainly not enough to refer to the new pad structure as crappy.

of course the new 1000 pads compare to the 2500. you can always compare apples to apples.

Maybe the one I tried out (guitar center) had just been bashed on, because those pads did not feel anything like the 2500.

it's very very likely that they were still the old pads. i wouldn't be surprised. when was this?

the way to tell is to lift up the corner of a corner pad. does the pad's edge come up above the frame? if so, new pads. or you could just grab 1 pad and and move it east/west/north south. if it moves the rest of them, new pads.

OR, you could have hypersensitive hands and detected some hidden hate that akai had manufactured into the pads in taiwan. i'm not going to deny that that's hugely possible, judging from their previous actions.

and, and -- i just installed this, check it out.

you know how you can adjust sensitivity for individual pads? that's the "ceiling" sensitivity, the one that determines how hard you have to hit the pad to achieve full velocity.

there's another sensitivity, as well, which is the "threshold" sensitivity. how hard you have to push before the pad actually triggers.

ie, the sensor doesn't just register a hit the second you touch the rubber - the rubber bends, touches the FSR, and once the rubber is applied to the FSR with enough pressure, allowing enough voltage through, the code recognizes that the FSR has been hit.

until now, we could only change the ceiling sensitivity. now, check this out:



this setting lets you adjust the threshold. i set mine to 1, the lowest possible value. this means that the second that rubber touches the fsr, it registers a hit. extremely gentle touches trigger the pads.

this code is available to the 1000, and will be to the 2500 if it isn't already. this allows for a much greater user customization of the pads for specific work. really badass, i noticed the difference right away

i have yet to understand the focus on the texture of the pads. they do feel different, but better or worse? it has never really mattered to me how they feel when i've got work to do on them. i'm from seattle and if you have to move some wood, a truck is a truck.