Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By teacher Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:26 am
What's up everyone,

So I've wanted a 3000 for ever and today I finally pulled the trigger. I bought one from Guitar Center and while I got a good price (849.99) I have a few concerns.

The 3000 is being shipped from Naperville IL.. It has OS 3.0 which means that it is oooolld right? So my questions are what are my options for upgrading the OS? I can't swing Rohan's 3.5 just yet (but I'm saving my pennies) and from what I searched and read booting a newer OS from floppy can compromise some things. Can I still find ROM chips for a newer OS for sale and if so how expensive are they. Also, are the 3.10 chips for sale from Roger Linn's site for the 60 the same aswhat would go in a 3000? And with being an older old machine, what things should I look for that might indicate my 3000 could be a money pit waiting to happen? Thanks for any feedback. I'm really excited to get my hands on it. Peace
Last edited by teacher on Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:41 am, edited 2 times in total.
By mpc3000le Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:10 am
teacher wrote: he 3000 is being shipped from Naperville IL.. It has OS 3.0 which means that it is oooolld right? So my questions are what are my options for upgrading the OS?


If your machine is installed with OS 3.00 or less than 3.08 then it is highly possible a floppy boot will not run/boot/work correctly.

Best to see what your unit ships with.

Guitar Center might say 3.00 but that may just be an error on their part.

teacher wrote: I can't swing Rohan's 3.5 just yet (but I'm saving my pennies) and from what I searched and read booting a newer OS from floppy can compromise some things.


Compromises as follows:

1: In some cases booting from a floppy can not be achieved at all.

2: In every other case where a floppy can be booted;

...... the sequencer memory is reduced.

...... the system is potentially destabilized as a result of "temporary OS in RAM running over the top of permanent one in ROM".

teacher wrote:Can I still find ROM chips for a newer OS for sale and if so how expensive are they.


Any users who upgraded to my Vailixi OS may have 3.11 OS ROM PULLS available for supply to you.

teacher wrote:Also, are the 3.10 chips for sale from Roger Linn's site for the 60 the same aswhat would go in a 3000?


No they are not.
Different chips containing code that suits MPC60/ASQ10 only hardware.

teacher wrote:And with being an older old machine, what things should I look for that might indicate my 3000 could be a money pit waiting to happen? Thanks for any feedback. I'm really excited to get my hands on it. Peace


Any component that gets hit or touched by human hands is usually the first to let go:

Switch tops.
Tact switches on the circuit boards that are underneath the switch tops.
Pads.
Pad sensor block that is under the pads.
Rotary encoder dial top.
Rotary encoder.

Next the LCD back light.
Maybe the LCD back light driver transformer.

To a lesser extent, rear panel jack sockets.

Don't sweat though. See how the unit is when you get it before freaking out at what could or might be wrong with it

If it is too bad, you can always send it back to Guitar Center for a full refund.

Rohan.
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By 950skweezyotitties Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:32 am
as a happy mansell upgrade user i have 3.11 roms to sell if you are interested.

By teacher Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:03 pm
Thanks for the info Rohan. It's very much appreciated. If this 3000 turns out to be a keeper then I will definately be contacting you soon for the 3.5.


S950skweezyotitties, please let me know what you want for your 3.11 chips. thanks

By Deta!L Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:51 pm
950skweezyotitties wrote:as a happy mansell upgrade user i have 3.11 roms to sell if you are interested.


do you love that OS or what? I'm going to place my order soon
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By `TK Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:46 pm
Im gonna place my order to (soon)

By Deta!L Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:00 pm
teacher wrote:
S950skweezyotitties, please let me know what you want for your 3.11 chips. thanks


haha! oh shit

By teacher Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:58 pm
What's funny?

By Deta!L Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:08 am
it just reads funny man, typing out the whole 950skweezyotittys, I dunno haha

By teacher Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:04 am
Deta!L wrote:it just reads funny man, typing out the whole 950skweezyotittys, I dunno haha


Ah yes, I was laughing when I was typing it and had to scroll back up the screen twice to confirm that his name was indeed 950skweezyotitties. :lol:

By Deta!L Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:19 am
exactly, I always think that it says Skeeeews your tittys, haha, that's my manz though..dudes always cracking me up

By teacher Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:59 pm
OK, so the 3000 is here. I was up until almost 4 am having a blast with it. It is pretty clean with only a few scratches and dings. The screen is very good so I won't need to put $ into that. It has OS 3.08. No memory expansion because it says I have 20 something secs stereo sample time. All the buttons, pads and knobs feel sturdy and are responsive. My only real worry is that every third or fourth time I turn on the machine all the lights come on and there is no text on the screen. It just stays lit up like it's frozen. Any one familiar with thyis problem? Is the 3.08 OS stable enough that I should not even sweat it? Is the memory for the 3000 as cheap and easy to install as it was in my 2000? I think this one is a keeper if the boot up problem is nothing to serious. What do you guys think? Thanks

By Deta!L Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:51 pm
yeah man, memory is cheap $50 on the bay..check www.mpc3000.com

easy install

I dunno about the boot, I'd say get the new OS and see if it fixes it

By teacher Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:30 pm
Man, what a beast of a machine! I had only ever seen one once before and have been curious about it's workflow and build for ever. I can honestly say it surpasses all my expectations. Built to last, simple, elegant. Everything I need and nothing I don't. I'm cheesin right now. My 2000XL is going to be upset. I called Bruce Forat and he said the boot problem could have to do with a batch of 3000s they made early on that they had to use a different brand chip or something like that. He's checking on the serial # for me. Hopefully Guitar Center can refund me some of my loot and I can have Bruce go through the whole thing.

skweezy, what's up with them chips?
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By 7 1 4 Beats Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:33 pm
GC ain't gonna refund you shiet I bet if it was a consignment piece which I am sure it was. Oh and $50 bucks for memory is a rip off VST sell's it $20.