Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By coles_brandon Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:23 pm
how are keygroups possible with the 1000? JAHROME was saying a while back that the 4000 is the ONLY MPC that can do keygroups due to its powerful processor. How will this be possible with the 1000/2500?

Keygroups meaning sample middle C into the MPC and be able to make and stretch out all the notes over the mpc or via midi keyboard. The notes would be perfectly TUNED. Not like using auto chromatic or 16 levels because they the notes aren't perfectly tuned using auto chromatic or 16 levels so how is this now possible?

Peep this thread:

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php ... key+groups

By Muied Lumens Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:25 pm
Antonym wrote:aftertouch (?? don't know very much about that, someone please explain)

Aftertouch is something the mpc's could have taken advantage of from day one. It is identical to holding down note repeat and pressing a pad, except now you have a completely independent control.

And keygroups/instrument programs give the 1000 the ability to function like a 'normal' sampler with samples stretching over a number of keys on a keyboard - and also (in akai samplers) for these to overlap. This is a function only seen on the 4k in the mpc range so far, it is pretty major.
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By distortedtekno Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:32 pm
Antonym wrote:ASD fckin' R!!!!!!!


FU@K YEAH!!! :D

By Muied Lumens Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:35 pm
coles_brandon wrote:how are keygroups possible with the 1000?

In the same or similar way that it is possible with the 4k.
Not like using auto chromatic or 16 levels because they the notes aren't perfectly tuned using auto chromatic or 16 levels so how is this now possible?


What do you mean they are not perfectly tuned? Chromatic tuning is really quite simple, mathematically. And it works fine in previous mpcs.
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By rabulisten Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:40 pm
is this 2.0 backwards compatible? can i pay for it, get it installed and then if i want to run ver 1.0 do so without hick ups. the price is good but ADSR or main view midi information does not excite me.

By AlphaMale Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:51 pm
aftertouch, at least the way it works on keyboards, is that it allows you to control some parameter (volume, pitch, filter, etc.) with the pressure you apply to the pad after the note has been hit.

im checking out the box that says all tracks can be used as audio tracks now, and there's a start time offset, which in effect allows them to be used like the direct record feature of the 2500.
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By hereo Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:54 pm
Shouldnt nobody be trippin' off of the new fee! Go back to using Akai OS then install JJ OS2 and tell me if its worth it?! You never dreamed that your MPC could do the stuff that JJ is making it possible to do! Come on y'all! I am literally broke as **** and I can swing $40 no problemo!

By AlphaMale Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:01 pm
also- look at the first box. it has the midi note that the pad corresponds to right on the main screen. i wonder if you can simply change that midi note right at that screen? that would be so helpful for using sound modules. general midi if useful for somethings, but it'd be cool to be able to assign any sound in an external bank to any pad you want on the fly like that.

By Mike Feedback Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:33 pm
looks like the sample trim and program screens i sent for non-destructive chopping helped out.

now will direct record be implemented as it was in the akai OS for the 2500? can a drum track be converted to an audio track and vice versa? do audio tracks work with song mode (if there is a song mode)?

i don't think i like the grid shown on the main screen. just hope it doesn't slow down the processor if it scrolls during play.
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By Antonym Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:37 pm
a couple of things

alphamale, MAIN seems to have become an "integration page" of sorts. it appears you have grid control as well as program control from the MAIN screen. that's why this part is exciting, rabulstin, but it's not revolutionary. just handy, and sometimes the handy stuff is what really makes the difference.

2nd, ASDR is most certaintly something i believe everyone will come to love and depend on. only just recently in my understanding of ASDR etc have i come to realize how infinitely useful and powerful it would be in the mpc1000.

3rd - keygroups. coles, the only only difference that allows the 4000 to make keygroups is code. you can already create "keygrouped" programs on the mpc1000, but it's just done a different, slower way. and, no offense, but i think you could find a better source for information about the "4000's powerful processor" allowing keygroups.

since my entire introduction to samplers was the mpc1000 (excluding nnxt, which i didn't understand at the time) keygroups are something that have as of yet not really sunk in as far as why they're really badass. since i'm grown on the mpc1000 way of manually assigning these types of things, maybe someone could give me an idea of some cool things one can do with keygroups that i may be missing out on?

4th - aftertouch sounds reaaally nice...assign to a lowpass filter...
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By Antonym Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:43 pm
mike - yeah if the processor gets slowed down by the grid on the main screen it would make it not worth it for sure. but i don't think that'll happen - after all, it doesnt push the processor from grid edit, so i don't know why it would from the main screen.

meanwhile, it looks like everything else is there that was there before, except for "track velocity percent." did you use that often?

now will direct record be implemented as it was in the akai OS for the 2500? can a drum track be converted to an audio track and vice versa? do audio tracks work with song mode (if there is a song mode)?


i dunno. unfortunately i'm not "heading up" that beta test, it would appear you are the man for that.

ND chopping looks great...really great. it looks like he managed it without taking up the qreal function. i wonder how well it will implement with velocity range layers...

By Mike Feedback Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:44 pm
Antonym wrote:2nd, ASDR is most certaintly something i believe everyone will come to love and depend on. only just recently in my understanding of ASDR etc have i come to realize how infinitely useful and powerful it would be in the mpc1000.


Antonym, it's ADSR, not ASDR. Decay comes before Sustain. it always bugged me that the envelope on MPCs didn't have ADSR.
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By thedvs01 Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:51 pm
Looking awesome - I would gladly pay for this. I don't see how you could possible complain about the price, this is still one of the best bargains ever.

I can only imagine the amount of work involved in creating something like this. And extra 40 dollars isn't shit!
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By Antonym Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:53 pm
ADSR. thanks.

By Sander Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:00 pm
undersound wrote:sucks having to pay as i onmly got jj like 4 months back but if its worth it i dont mind. and its not like ur going in blind he gives u the option of a trial


I paid it just a month ago an haven't used the 1000 since then. A pitty I did not wait, but we in europe have luck with the current euro/dollar rate.