Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).

By blippo Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:45 pm
i just noticed that the "Program" meny is gone... to bad i kinda liked it..

But i guess jj knows what he´s doing :)
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By Mr modnaR Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:47 pm
blippo wrote:i just noticed that the "Program" meny is gone... to bad i kinda liked it..

But i guess jj knows what he´s doing :)


i think it's only old program mode. the global program mode will still be there i believe.

By littlerob Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:58 pm
so what r the advantages of using non-destructive chopping over slicing? do they not do the same thing, but thru different methods. the only thing i can think of is that it saves space on the memory card. r there any other benefits? sorry new concept, need to understand b4 i hastily upgrade to the new os.
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By Antonym Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:01 pm
space is 1 benefit
clutter is another (no more scrolling through SAMPLE01-1, SAMPLE01-2)
wider, independent selection points (chop 1 could be the first note, chop 2 could be the first note and second note)

By blippo Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:09 pm
It is really good that he is inplenting nondestructive chop..

Since the first day i layed my hands on this machine i always thought it was a bit clumsy handled...
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By Antonym Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:20 pm
the downside of CHOP instead of slice is that you can't timestretch just 1 chop like you can just 1 slice.

with timestretch, it's the whole file or none of it, not "just this section."

second, i don't know if it will be allowed for CHOP to also allow alternate looping.

all of those things are very important to me
hopefully i can think of some cool things you can do with CHOP that you can't do with SLICE to fit this popular new feature into my workflow.
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By Lithion Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:34 pm
It looks like everything in the old program mode is still there, just in different spots. It will require some memorization of where new things are, but I think this new setup might be a little faster, with the windows instead of actually using the window button.

I'm kind of on the fence about it. I'm struggling with being afraid of new things. I noticed too the more I strengthen my skils in music production the less afraid I am of new technology. I really love the mpc because it has made me 'better' at making music, but I also know that I have been able to branch out to new platforms to make music too.

I dunno though, just the workflow of the mpc sometimes will enspire music in me though, so I'm a bit afraid of losing that with this new os. Well, it is what it is I guess, and even if I have to get left behind I'll always have jjos 4.95 to fall back on anyway, I'll just have to deal with those feelings that I am missing out instead of dealing with feelings that I have lost something.

Grass is always greener, overall I hope this new os works out well.
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By sans soleil Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:26 pm
anyone notice that the file size for the new OS has changed ?

it now says it's 865kb...wonder what that means...?
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By `TK Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:29 pm
normally if u chop the chops are extracted to new files.. this means
that u cant edit them anymore.. if u cut them to short ur gonna have to tart all over again.... but with this new chop method in os2 u can just adjust the points again (mayb even in real time... thats what i hope)
so thats a good thing.. and it saves mem
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By mp3 Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:42 pm
Antonym wrote:
littlerob wrote:can somone explain how non-destructive chopping works? is it something along the lines of chopping without slicing or altering the original sample? think im confused.


yes. it sets up a definable number (2-64) of independent start and end points per sample. jj is calling nondestructive chopping "CHOP" in OS the 2nd, not to be confused with "SLICE," which creates new files.

when you assign the sample in program mode, you then move to the "CHOP" column and note what slice you want that particular pad to play.



To take it further, basically, say you have a three second sample. You can set up several different 'chops' that will all play the same sample, just different sections of it. For example, you could have one chop that plays the first second and another that plays the last 2.5 seconds of the sample. However in memory there only exists one sample. Its really genius in that it not only saves memory (and storage space), it also reduces file management tasks, and simplifies chopping. Its done similarly in the Ensoniq ASR-10 and X as someone mentioned earlier. As a matter of fact it was the main thing I missed when I sold my X Pro.

By Mike Feedback Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:42 pm
non-destructive chopping is going to be huge.. i can't wait to go through all my breaks and set chops within them.

and you're welcome for explaining to JJ how to implement that.
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By thedvs01 Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:54 pm
blippo wrote:
Antonym wrote:i view os2 as a new product, so i'm happy to buy it.


agree


for real

y'all need to stop being stingy. you wouldn't have any of this shit if not for JJ so just pay the man. He deserves it
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By mkl... Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:00 am
i'm quite afraid about losing the second filter...it's usefull for me cuz' it allows me to have negative eq on my samples... :?

By earwolf Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 am
os v2 is bigger than hip hop
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By goobadrum Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:10 am
Originally posted by blippo:

quote: Originally posted by Antonym:
i view os2 as a new product, so i'm happy to buy it.



agree



for real

y'all need to stop being stingy. you wouldn't have any of this **** if not for JJ so just pay the man. He deserves it


Dito !! no more wingeing about the monies ,
this is fantastic s**t for f**k all. if you don't like it don't upgrade.easy