NEW JJ OS V2!!!

well, they're different. i don't know if i can say improved yet but the resolution curve is in fact different.

mp3 wrote:

Antonym wrote:the new nondestructive slice function is really really good.
i have yet to experiment with a few things, like what happens if you specify your slices and then stretch the original sample. do the slices move to compensate, or will you have to specify slices again?

I would guess that you'd have to re-specify your chops (JJ does call them chops right?) If JJ gets it to work the way you're thinking, then he IS a Jenius

it's not as hard as you think. in the words of mos def, "it's all mathematics".

if your sample length is 1000 and your chop starts at 100 and ends at 200, and you double the length of the sample to 2000, then your start point doubles to 200 and your end point to 400.

so much going on here....wowsa...

ok so yes i was largely being sarcastic, some of the time but not all, which is the curse of the english, but my free association allows some heavyweight brainstorming and im amped to the living tyts over the open os style possibilities that JJ aka Antonym is serving up (dont deny it Nym)

the v3 thing was to do with the possible multiple os versions that jj might offer. clearly a studio/sound sculpting os with all its adsr and filtering options would be different to an os that is geared for simplicity of live performance. this is what i am getting at and am juiced by the potential, even though i escaped to the mpc to forget all this 'upgrade fever' which is the curse of the computer world...

as for the fx, i have said many times that i feel the fx are hot garbation (a $50 used lexicon eats them), the filters are weaksauce and basically any yamaha korg or old emu and ensoniq crushes anything akai ever served up and therefore i would happily lose them and stick to outboard.

HOWEVER if jj can code to get some DECENT fx happening such as a funky tape delay then HELL YES i would support it - didnt his early mpc1000 offerings focus on fx or am i smoking crack?

bottom line is lets throw everything out there, see where it lands, run the results up the flagpole and wake up and smell what we are shovelling

earwolf wrote:as for the fx, i have said many times that i feel the fx are hot garbation (a $50 used lexicon eats them), the filters are weaksauce and basically any yamaha korg or old emu and ensoniq crushes anything akai ever served up and therefore i would happily lose them and stick to outboard.

HOWEVER if jj can code to get some DECENT fx happening such as a funky tape delay then HELL YES i would support it - didnt his early mpc1000 offerings focus on fx or am i smoking crack?

I know right? Why are cats married to the idea of having these absolute garbage fx in the code? You don't really use these in your tracks do you??

Step your game up a little and get something (anything) else for fx processing, get on the boat here and stop griping about the prospect of losing them to free up space or implementing something (anything) else!

They sound like a bag of asses!!! REAL TALK!!!

Waw nym, the features you are summing up all sound terrific. Especially the new sample features, which mean that I could finally use the mpc as a chromatic sampler (memory permitting). And I just bought a A3000 yamaha sampler for live use of pads and keys....
Anyway, did anything change in the song mode? Could you check that? I use that a lot, together with the next sequence button, when playing live.

I must agree : we have a lot to look forward to. Is there anything you noticed that's missing compared to the latest V1?

all this talk of removing fx, yeah im up for it, but my main use for whats there is, i love to exploit limitations, thats why i still find my best trax on my 202x606xBoss Delay days....

im into complexity, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to jam.....

"basically any yamaha korg or old emu and ensoniq crushes anything akai ever served up and therefore i would happily lose them and stick to outboard. "

all true, i have all this other juicy filter/mod ample gear too, im not short of outboard either, there's just soooo much more fun in one box mentality sometimes from where i'm at.......this mpc was toy, till jj came up...and the fx aint changed much....but i can still rock em, even in a serious live setup with just the one unit, a pair of stereo cables cans and a psu.

I'd lose the FX without any problem, but the filters are useful - I have synths with analog filters which I could use, but it's so much easier to be able to do basic filtering in the box.

Plus the crappiness of the filters (especially with the resonance right up) is fun when making gnarly synth patches from single waveforms.

yeah the res at 100 is actually useful. it becomes a sine oscillator if used properly, like i set the vel>filt frq, then that gives u pitch control of the res as a tone generator.

as long as the volume level is disconnected from velocity and turned down a fair amount, its a full on synth. then - ready for it!..... FILTER2 serves as an INDISPENSIBLE filter for the sines, and fukkkk, when the velocity set in 16 levels, gives u serious sub bass lines. a la king tubby, esp thru that chod delay.

this and others reason to live forever in JJOS1, im officially setting up a "livin in the past" commune for any rejected jj1 users, GPS co-ords to follow.

arebee wrote: FILTER2 serves as an INDISPENSIBLE
filter for the sines

[synth geek] Not sure what you're filtering out of a sine - if it's anything like a real sine, it ain't going to have anything to filter![/synth geek]

filter out subs, i like my dynaudio's workin - thanks

dunno wot filters u usin, but if they aint removing stuff from a sine, u better get em seen to.

nah, he's right man, a pure sine wave is only one frequency, you cannot filter out highs or whatever. if you bump up resonance and get near the sine's frequency with the cutoff, you'll add frequencies.

yah, but when 100% res & vel=freq, with low velocities u can get very low tones - the sub bass i mentioned like 100 times....., they need a hipass if im not mistaken.or my speakers break.

ok ok , i'm sure its not a pure fkin PURE sine, but its sine-y.

Geek fight! Geek fight!

erm, right who's the specky -est of them all,

not me ok.

cant u get what im sayin? or notttoss.