Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By ilgit Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:38 pm
How long does the resampling take with your mpc,.....I did it and it took like over 4 minits and I didnt had time to wait so I had to shut down my mpc.....

hows yours ?
By detriment Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:59 pm
and if you try messing with the sampling rate etc it takes even longer... pisses me off cos i really wanna use resampling but it takes too long
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By ilgit Sun Feb 23, 2003 9:51 pm
So, it's normal that I be waiting like ages for that sh!t ?
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By tude Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:24 pm
it depends...if you want to resample to 8-bit with like 10 000Hz, it's going to take a lot of time. Anyways the resampling option isn't that good, it only adds "air" to the sample.

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By kool Sat Mar 01, 2003 5:07 am
resampling is suppose to dirty up a sample but tude is right, it only adds air.

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By thynctank Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:52 am
You could always resample your stuff on the computer, which'd take a few seconds per sample...
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By Boogie Man Sat Mar 01, 2003 2:56 pm
to resample only drum sounds, it makes the kicks fatter when you stack them with another kick and detune one, change the filter etc. Those who said it just "adds air" dont know how to use it.
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By Mass Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:39 am
"to resample only drum sounds, it makes the kicks fatter when you stack them with another kick and detune one, change the filter etc. Those who said it just "adds air" dont know how to use it. "

Hey, Boogie Man. Since your so knowledgable, I got a question for you:

Why is it that most of the time you reply to someone's post, you come with something negative to say? I could tell people that read this post that if you make a super-time stretched version of the same kick, detune that, and stack it with the original it makes a nice kick too. But I didn't add "you don't know how to use it" at the end. People on this aren't claiming to know (besides you maybe) everything about the MPC. I think the title of the webpage should indicate something to you. Most of us are here to learn and share good ideas, not snide elitist comments. Why don't you grow up a little and stop being such a prick to all the 15 yr olds that dont know how to use 16 levels. :shock:
By kool Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:59 am
WHAT'S THE DAMN DEAL "boogie" the homie Mass is right, you aint gotta be a smart ass with your comments ! I mean in my opinion... i dont really like resampling . and if i don't know how to use it, that's why i'm at the mpc tutor web site!!!!!!!!!

"if you dont hustle you dont eat you dont and if you dont eat you dont sleep!"
By roxstar Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:07 pm
I think he's only saying something that is true. There are MANY times that I hear people stating things that are false. To anyone that doesn't know (beginner) he may look at the post and assume the resampling doesn't do anything but add air, when in fact it does much more than that. If I told you that 1+1=3 and you believed that, I would hope someone would correct you later and then inform you that whoever gave you that answer doesn't know what they were talking about. But any ways, lets get back to the original question. Why does re-sampling take so long? Well, hell if I know, but it does work. A lot of other samplers that resample do simply add air (ASR's for example) where as the MPC really re-samples. If you want proof, take a SHORT sample, (in fact, cut off anything that you don't need) and resample it in 12bit or 8 bit), then look at the size of the sample.. It should be shorter (depending on what you do to it) Changing the Hz is like using an EQ to change the frequency on how it sounds. (don't quote me on any of the technicalities) Resampling can, and will make drums sounds dirtier, but I wouldn't expect to just use it once and be done. It may take many times of resampling to get something how you want it to sound, but your gonna have to play around with it. The smaller the size, the faster it will work. Resampling long samples will take forever.. I suggest buying another machine to do that.. which is why I use the ASR, but if chips are short (money) the MPC2000XL can do what you need it to do, OR you can listen to someone that doesn't know what their talking about and spend $1300.00 on a SP1200.. just to make your drums sounds dirty.
By kool Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:30 pm
damn "roxtar", why you gotta come off with smart ass comments too. if you see so many people posting up false info like you claim you do, then why doesn't yo genious-ass make a website for only "know it all ******".
i mean i was just agreeing with what tude said. i never said my way was the ony way. infact their is "no right way or wrong way" of doing things. i just expressed, what i think, about resampling, that's what a forum is about.

[/quote]"if you dont hustle you dont eat and if you dont eat you dont sleep!"
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By Boogie Man Sun Mar 02, 2003 9:20 pm
I wasnt making any snide elitist comments, I was merely pointing out that some people might not actually know how to correctly use it. Its obviously not designed for long phrases, only short ones like drums. You just read the statement in the wrong context. Also I don't bring ANY type of negativity to this site. I love this place, so why would I try to destroy it? I've learned many things from this site myself. I keep it civil man.
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By tude Sun Mar 02, 2003 9:54 pm
alright, boogieman & roxstar, you might be right. I don't know that much about it, I've only tried it a couple of times with kickdrum samples. I didn't like the result. For me, layering totally same drum samples and filtering them gives better results than resampling and then filtering and layering. But I'll give your way a try. When I first realized that the mpc has this option, I thought that it would be like sampling into an sp, maybe that's way I got a little disappointed. But hey, no need to argue ;)
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By ieism Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:33 am
16 bit versus 12 bit:
In practice it just means that twelve bits of data are used to represent every measurement or 'sample' of an incoming audio signal. If the sampling frequency is 41kHz -- that would mean up to 41.000 of these 'measurements' can be taken in one second.
Fortyone thousand 12-bit samples are equivalent to 492,000 bits of data per second (12 x 41,000 = 492,000).
More important, resampling to 12-bit will also increase the signal-to-noise ratio and has a reduced dynamic range compared with 16-bit audio. So while reducing the sample frequency will only "add air" downsampling to 12 bit will also add noise and "colour the sound".
Older samplers, like sp's or s950, will colour the sound more than an mpc2000. hence the difference in sound.
But you can still get some great results with resampling on the mpc. Too bad it takes too long to resample to actually try all the possibilities.