Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
By xavier108 Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:16 am
Im a long time 2000xl user and am considering getting either a 2500 or a 1000. I wanted to know if i could burn separate midi drum tracks from a sequence as audio files . This would mean i wouldnt have to use the MPs converters to record each track separately onto my DAW (I could just load the CD and line up all the tracks) and i wouldnt have to go through the hassle of lining up all the sepatate tracks on logic manually (they would be lined the same as my MP sequence if snapped to 0).
thanks

By _Stilo_ Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:42 am
No, you can't do that. Unless you resample each track manually and burn those onto CD. But that's about the same as recording it directly into your PC.
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By selecta jo Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:43 am
welcome to the forums...

yes you can resample individual tracks to audio inside the mpc2500 and yes you can then burn them to cd for transfering to your computer, but you don´t need to do this because you can transfer your resampled wave files through the usb cable direct to your computer.

just check the manual and the manual addendum on the functions of the new os at akaipro.com and read this forums, then all your questions will be answered before you buy the machine.

peace jo

By _Stilo_ Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:47 am
I think he meant automatically turning the tracks into audio files, so they are aligned according to the MIDI data in the sequence. The MPC can't do that.
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By selecta jo Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:34 pm
@stilo: ah, i see, but can´t he just snap every resampled wave to grid postition in logic? the files have all the same length and tempo so this should work (sort of). maybe add two empty bars at the beginning of each file with one carefully placed hit to use as a reference.
in my case i import individual wave files with the same length and tempo into ableton live and the all play pretty well (but that maybe depending on how ableton is dealing with the files).

peace jo

By _Stilo_ Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:46 pm
selecta jo wrote:@stilo: ah, i see, but can´t he just snap every resampled wave to grid postition in logic? the files have all the same length and tempo so this should work (sort of). maybe add two empty bars at the beginning of each file with one carefully placed hit to use as a reference.

That's the hassle of aligning it all which he mentioned :D

I'm not sure if the resampling starts recording exactly when the sequence starts, or if you have to cut it afterwards...in any case you can't automatically burn the separate tracks, like some recording workstation can.

By xavier108 Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:16 pm
thanks for all the replies everyone and a happy new year to all.
_Stilo_ wrote:
Stilo wrote:

That's the hassle of aligning it all which he mentioned :D

I'm not sure if the resampling starts recording exactly when the sequence starts, or if you have to cut it afterwards...in any case you can't automatically burn the separate tracks, like some recording workstation can.
If the resampling starts automatically when the sequence starts that would be good byt im guessing it starts manually. This is a major hassle because one of the most beautiful things bout the mps are the timing but when you realign everything in youre DAW manually youre bound to lose something- it wont be exactly the same as the MP. The only alternative is to mix the whole thing inside of the mp and send it out through the digital outs. This is less than ideal though........ i love the freedom of tweaking each individual track to my hearts content on the DAW

one love
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By selecta jo Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:54 pm
why not sync your mpc to logic, set the mpc as master and record every track through the digital outs to logic while muting the other tracks? the sound should be the same as if you were resampling - spdif is also 16bit/44.1khz.
this way you get the timing of the mpc and gain all the advantages logic has to offer if it knows when the track begins? use mmc to control logic from the mpc then the recording starts exactly when you press play on the mpc.

peace jo

By xavier108 Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:02 am
selecta jo wrote:why not sync your mpc to logic, set the mpc as master and record every track through the digital outs to logic while muting the other tracks? the sound should be the same as if you were resampling - spdif is also 16bit/44.1khz.
this way you get the timing of the mpc and gain all the advantages logic has to offer if it knows when the track begins? use mmc to control logic from the mpc then the recording starts exactly when you press play on the mpc.

peace jo

ive never actually used midi like that. Would using spdif mean i would be using the converters on my audio interface instead? Also would an mpc4000 be able to burn each midi track on to cd as audio?

one love

By xavier108 Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:41 am
i know that midi that midi doesnt contain audio data . if you read the thread you would see i meant the audio playing off the midi tracks on the 2500.
peace
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By konc3pt Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:25 am
if you expressed yourself clearer there wouldnt have been a misunderstanding.

and once again midi does not contain audio. I'm still unclear whether you talking about audio tracks or burning external midi instruments triggered by mpc...I'm sure you already came up with an answer to you question tho

By _Stilo_ Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:03 am
xavier108 wrote:ive never actually used midi like that. Would using spdif mean i would be using the converters on my audio interface instead? Also would an mpc4000 be able to burn each midi track on to cd as audio?

S/PDIF means that you do not have to use any converters, because the signal stays digital all the way. It's a digital data transmission.

And of course you cannot burn external instruments you trigger by MIDI onto a CD inside your MPC (at least not that easily), but I'm sure you're aware of that.