IS os2 WORTH IT? (yes, this is why)

I agree with Ant on this one. I think alot of additions will happen with time and who knows if os 1 projects will remain incompatible. When os 1 came out I'm sure no one expected it to be what it is now. I know when I bought my first ASR 10 way back when- $1800 or so I bought some 3rd party efx disks for $50 that added I believe resonance thats it. For a kid starting off nowadays what a deal- the JJ os 1 and 2 bring for a mere $69; synthesis, grid sequencing,chopping, sampling, efx,and audio tracks for under $1000. A real nice all in one machine now that JJ has/is putting in the work. I will help JJ continue this with my $39 contribution. Gotta eat ya know!

lol i think stan is in denial after realising the insane update to the manual that will be needed...

i hope that the os evolves and adressess these issues that has been talked about,then i`ll update.

Antonym wrote:

perhaps they'll release their own os for you.

>> I thought about it a lil while and came to the conclusion, that I will request a feature to switch off Grid Edit in the Main Screen. Would not be that hard, I guess.

Simulting pads/ layer got some serious syncing issues. I don't know If you audibly heard it or not, but samples are not getting played back in the right timing, which leeds to unwanted phase effects, which results from untight syncing

this occurs regardless of mpc regardless of layering tactic whenever you layer 2 of the same sound on top of each other. it is not a serious syncing issue ESPECIALLY if you can't audibly hear it. point is, you're not supposed to by layering 2 of the exact same/very similar sound because of phasing. also in os1 and os2, i've seen no more issue with this using SIMULT than i have using regular old LAYER. [/quote)

>> I know that these phasing issues appear only when you use the same sample, I just forgot mentioning it, my bad. But filtering samples in varying frequency bandwiths can improve the overall feel of a sample, esp. when you use llow end tqctics.

In the beginning I said, I am not a believer, YET. I check it out a little more and then I make my final judgement.

PEACE

earwolf wrote:lol i think stan is in denial after realising the insane update to the manual that will be needed...

Before I pick up on that, I need to find out if the screenshot feature is still in there, but I think it is. Otherwise there wouldn't be screenshots on JJ's site.
The other problem I got, is the concept of the manual. If the OS "interactivity" - meaning that OS1 and 2 must be installed - remains as is, I definately will OS1 & OS2 features side by side in the manual (where possible).
But I think - and that's just my hypothesis, that in the end - the later and final versions of OS2 will run without having OS1 installed. But thats just a hypothethis. I'm wondering why he actually did that? Is it a workaround to break the OS-Memory restrictions? If it would be like that, then of course my thesis would be irrelevant. However it is - two things I can say for sure: I will finish what I started, but it will take time, because I got some serious issues to take care of right now.

PEACE

Just installed this last night. The new instrument tracks and mixer tracks are sick and the track view makes a lot more sense. I'd prefer to have a larger position counter and a smaller "MIDI/DRUM" indicator but overall this is shaping up brilliantly.

Anybody else notice that os1 programs sometimes don't make any sound until you go into the track mute screen once?

kuniklo wrote:Anybody else notice that os1 programs sometimes don't make any sound until you go into the track mute screen once?

Nope, not at all. Plz tellme more, maybe in the bug report thread


About the "phasing issue": OS1 is dead on sample accurate when simulting pads. Put a bassdrum sample on two pads, simult them and play as often as you like, no change in sound whatsoever.

rinseout wrote:

kuniklo wrote:Anybody else notice that os1 programs sometimes don't make any sound until you go into the track mute screen once?

Nope, not at all. Plz tellme more, maybe in the bug report thread

Just noticed this casually last night running through some of the new OS2 features for the first time. I'll see if it's consistent and report it if it is.

Also ran into another problem. I was bouncing back and forth between two sequences. Sequence 2 had some realtime controller tune events in it, but the corresponding track in sequence 1 came in tuned way down after a sequence change, even though there weren't any tune events in the seq 1 track and the tracks were using different programs. Anybody seen this one?

I´m confused now, OS1 or OS2?

Edit: Oh man i really need sleep, got it now, OS1 pgms on OS2

It looks like OS2 has some great potential for lo-fi sound generation, so I will definitely look into it once the final version comes out.

Im looking forward to portamento

meeeeeeee too. portamento + deep lowpass filter + steep aftertouch on a loud, growly bassline...os2's inst programs are already influencing my sound, but this will really step it up

hopefully a portamento which can be added to realtime qlink so you can automate that function

handling around with os2 for a while i won t turn back to os1.
os2 is really awesome, where the mpc1000 becomes a real synthesiser
makin crazy sounds.
it works for me also very stable more stable than os1, where i had
a few crashes.
i m only at the beginning to explore os2 but i see that the workflow
is far way better and intuitive, track mixer is so fat, i wonder how i could live without before!
for me even at this early beta state the jjos2 is more than worh the money i was spending, it s a new mpc 1000 livestyle! great üpdate.

kuniklo wrote:Anybody else notice that os1 programs sometimes don't make any sound until you go into the track mute screen once?

Yeah. Same here. Or sometimes to get it to make sounds I have to press MODE or MAIN.

rabulisten wrote:i totally agree with stan steez. i really dont care for edit screen in main nor to i need adsr for my mpc. and leaving some features out from os1 seals the deal for me (like compatibility). I appreciete everything jj has done for the mpc but im gonna stay on os1. Everything i need and then some is available there. I aint being cheap either, he deserves every penny for his updates. Id donate him 30 dollars but i still dont want the os2 of his. Thanks stan for your comparison chart btw,it cleared things out for me.

Perhaps when OS2 is actually complete, you will change your mind. We all got several pleasant unexpected additions to OS1 even after JJ said THE ADDITION OF FUNCTIONS IS NO MORE.... Or however he put it.