Song mode, how 2 have diff. start/stop points on 1 Sequence?

I have the 3.08 OS and am planning on buying OS 1 and eventuallyt OS2 but I'm just trying to learn all that it does first before upgrading. I came across a thread about what's so good about OS2 and if it is worth it and came across a few posts where people were able to start playing a sequence and then have it loop in the middle of it and keep repeating those specific bars, I have been trying to do something similar in Song mode. Here's my question... What I would like to, for example, I'm using 4 bar/measure sequences (4 beats per bar/measure) and I have sequence 1, 2 and 3 playing straight through then the 3rd sequence comes in again but this time I want to stop the sequence after the second beat of the 4th bar and have the 3rd sequence come in once again (on the 3th beat) but have it just repeat the first 1/2 beat of the first bar 4 times in order to complete the third and fourth beat of the 4th and last bar, then have the song go into the 4th sequence and so on. Basically it sounds like the loop stutters at the very end replaying the very beginning of that same loop 4 times before going into the next sequence. It's kind of hard for me to explain and I'm not totally sure I got all that beats/measures talk correctly but I hope I get my point accross. Before I got my MPC about a month ago I was using my Motif ES and in the "pattern chain" mode it let you put your sequences in order just like my MPC does but next to the sequence there was a field where you could specify at what bar or beat within a bar you wanted to begin and stop the sequence (it always defaulted to play the entire loop unless you changet it) so you could have a variety of ways that a sequence could start and stop playing without actually having to copy the original sequence and create new shorter sequence out of it. Is there anyway to do something similar in the MPC1K or do you just have to copy sequences then edit the sequnces and time signitures accordingly? Is this even posted in the right thread? Maybe JJ can implement some thing like this in OS 2 if it's not already there in OS1, it's a time saver and lets you do some crazy transitions besides just taking sounds out and dropping sounds in. I already posted this in another threat about what's so good about os2 but probably posted in wrong thread, my bad. Thanks for your help in advance.

- B.A.

Anyone know if what I'm trying to do is possible or did I explain it all wrong? Anyone here ever use a Motif and know what I'm talking about in pattern mode in the pattern "chain" screen?

I just spoke to Akai and I explained what I was trying to do and the tech was familiar with the feature on the Motif I was talking about but unfortunately he told me that there's no way to set a sequence to stop early and there's no way begin a sequence anywhere but at the begining. He said the sequencer is locked to only play sequences from begining to end. He told me all I can do is just make copies of my sequences, make them shorter (begining and ending wherever I want) and then go to song mode and put them in the order I want. Maybe JJ can have a feature like this on the next OS, it saves a lot of sequence editing time.

-B.A.

the phone apes know less about MPCs than jellyfish know about algebra.

you can't do what you're trying to do - in song mode. however, by creating 1 big, long sequence, using the jj os you can do the damn thing and set your loop points.

ie, 32 bar seqence. say you're only trying to hear baras 8-16. set the loop beginning to 8 and the end to 16.

that is what you wanted, correct? something like a selection which you can loop in your DAW?

Sounds like this is what I'm trying to do but can you create more than one loop point and does the loop point keep looping continuously or can you specify how many repetitions you want before it continues playing the rest of the sequence? Thanks for the reply.

can you create more than one loop point

unfortunately, no. think like Acid or Reaper (and probably many many other daws). you specify 1 loop "focus," and it loops indefinitely.

and does the loop point keep looping continuously

indefinitely. however, to simulate a repetition, copy the data. actually build in the repetitions manually. it's not ideal, but neither is song mode.

Nym wrote:to simulate a repetition, copy the data. actually build in the repetitions manually. it's not ideal, but neither is song mode.

Sounds like this is what I'm going to have to do, either that or just make copies of sequences, edit them and do it in song mode but this will probably take longer than the way you just described. Thanks Nym.