Questions about the mpc 5000: shoot

LvngDead wrote:scd dawg, do you get to throw samples into the VA synth? What I'm trynna ask is, do you get to apply synth parameters to samples?

yo, since you are a beta tester, how come they didn't include the Z-sampling engine?

I am not sure, but I suspect that certain hardware is not available anymore.

thanks for the replies mayne.

anotha one.

What have you heard about future OS updates for this machine?

LvngDead wrote:anotha one.

What have you heard about future OS updates for this machine?

A lot. But I can't tell

scd wrote:

mp3 wrote:Proprietary RAM... That's super wack. They took it back 15 years with that one lol.

Could you please keep at least THIS post free of anti-Akai thoughts and ask questions or post something constructive? That's what this thread is meant for. There are enough threads within the 5k forum index (the rest of them?) where you can spit out your negativity. Thank you.

This is the weirdest forum I have ever seen...

You got it!

However, I take it you've never been to the forums at kvraudio.com...

scd, what are you liking most about the 5000 so far?

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You got it!

However, I take it you've never been to the forums at kvraudio.com... [/quote]

Nope... I don't have been on many forums at all actually I'd rather make music

LvngDead wrote:scd, what are you liking most about the 5000 so far?

Tight timing

user interface: the q link controllers but also the improved interface over the 4k which I am used to.

the synth: as a synth addict (analogs mainly), this VA stands out pretty good, considering it is not the core business of the mpc.

the arpeggiator: VERY inspiring, not only in use with the synth, but also with samples!

effects: again, improved over the 4k. All the synced effects are great fun. There are a few awsome, and I mean REALLY awsome sounding delays on it for instance.

Standard 10 outputs: that comes in really handy!

The simplified sampler, again compared with the 4k. I find it a pitty that it is 16 bits, but it is also way easier to understand and to work with, which is a great plus *to me*. See beneath.

The harddiskrecording part got less attention from me. That's mainly because of my personal vision of what the mpc should do, which is, to stand NOT in the way in the creative process.
In my case that means while composing and recording sketches and songs, the thing should bring me as little headaches as possible. I do the composing and recording mainly in midi and take it a step further on the computer when going to audio. That's just my way of doing things.
So, the HD recorder could definately be a big plus for a lot of folks, but for me personally it's not.

The lesser things: the reverbs are average. Then again, the OS is not finished. I am convinced akai wil take those a step up in quality in this OS or the next.

24 bit sampling not possible. I personally think you could gain a lot of dynamics in your recordings with 24 bit over 16.

That's about it in a nutshell. At start a frowned my eyebrows a few times when starting to test/working with it. Coming from the 4k that makes sense...
But after quite a short time, after finding my way with the user interface I am pretty convinced this 5k deserves the "flagship" tag. Not a flagship over the 4k (that comparison makes *really* no sense to me), but it is a good, complete, tight, mpc-style MPC.
During testing I many times lost myself in making music with it, instead of testing. To me that's good proof

The "switched fx's within a sequence test" and synth examples will be posted tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.

Boele

^Thanks man! I think I got to rob a bank once again...

Does the O.S still have a lot of bugs? Do you have any idea when they will begin shipping? Thanks apprieciate your time!

Tmos225 wrote:Does the O.S still have a lot of bugs? Do you have any idea when they will begin shipping? Thanks apprieciate your time!

I hope you will understand that I can't tell anything about the bugsolving process. And it doesn't make much sense to talk about it before the final OS is there.

Shippingdates I can't tell either. Again, I am just betatesting.

OK< here the FX set change within a sequence test:
http://www.synthmusic.info/mp3s/FX4.mp3

It is a 16 measures recording (played twice), with every 4 measures a change of the FX set (you can insert those changes in edit mode).
First 4 measures there is a autopan (synced) and distortion effect
Next 4 measures:pingpong delay plus medium reverb
Next 4 measures: delay LP and large reverb
Next 4 measures: chorus and compressor

The transitions from one to the other FX set sound abrupt of course, but there are no nasty clicks or failures as far as I can hear. Quite good really!
The pinpong delay has to get "started" the first few beats as expected. That's really nice.

Thinking about it, this brings a lot of great FX possibilities *within* a sound. Remember, the FX set, holds the settings of all 4 busses, containing two effects per buss (and two busses can be put in series as well).

I think the effects q link controller changes are not recordable yet. Must enter that in the request list I could think of a few that would make sense.

Sorry to bother you again Boele, but this one is a deal-breaker...

(I'm guessing the 5000 won't be able to do this, so I'll ask for it to be a software revision)

I really need it to be able to change BPM during playback. That means single hits (without pitch change), chopped loops, patch phrases and (crucially) all tempo-derived effects.

Too difficult?

So, finally a little synth mp3 from the MPC.

A bit cheesy maybe, and there is much more possible, but this one is just to give you a little impression of the overall sound.

All sounds are from the build in synth, except the drumtrack, which is a sampled Linn9000 from the sample library that goes with the mpc.

It's all in one take, so 20 voices is enough as you can hear.

http://www.synthmusic.info/mp3s/mpcsynth.mp3