MPC VS VTSi like battery 3 or kontakt

Please, I'd like to buy an MPC500 but I have a question, because I never used an MPC model.


Sorry for this comparaison but is there difference beetween the MPC 500( or other model) and a VSTi like Battery 3?

What are these differences? I'm looking for a sound more large and I'd like to boost really my drum.

In fact I use samples in battery 3 and the results is very good but I'm not sure about the result, so I think to buy the MPC500.

Is it a good choice??

Thanks for your fast reply

Compare? I guess you can say both use samples and that's about it.

The mpc 500 is basic little drumsampler that lets you physically make beats.
(there's a short way from sound > sampling > beats = fast musicmaking is fun)

Most vst/au-plug ins are a lot more capable in terms of sound, editing is simpler, you can aply a lot of more filters and effects and therefor you can manipulate your samples more - but without a controller (keyboard/drumpad) it's a computerbased operation. (more possibilities, but also more mouseclicking and choices)

The mpc500 is known for it's bugs, but computers and software-plug ins are known for that too...

No mpc will improve your beats in terms of sound (if we ignore the 12bit lovers for a second) - but a mpc can probably change the feel and groove of them due to the input method and the mpc sequencer (but getting a drumcontroller and some skills in groove-quantizing will achive that too).

Learning more about effects/soundprocessing and some drumlayering will probably be the best way for a better "large" drum sound...

avart wrote:Compare? I guess you can say both use samples and that's about it.

The mpc 500 is basic little drumsampler that lets you physically make beats.
(there's a short way from sound > sampling > beats = fast musicmaking is fun)

Most vst/au-plug ins are a lot more capable in terms of sound, editing is simpler, you can aply a lot of more filters and effects and therefor you can manipulate your samples more - but without a controller (keyboard/drumpad) it's a computerbased operation. (more possibilities, but also more mouseclicking and choices)

The mpc500 is known for it's bugs, but computers and software-plug ins are known for that too...

No mpc will improve your beats in terms of sound (if we ignore the 12bit lovers for a second) - but a mpc can probably change the feel and groove of them due to the input method and the mpc sequencer (but getting a drumcontroller and some skills in groove-quantizing will achive that too).

Learning more about effects/soundprocessing and some drumlayering will probably be the best way for a better "large" drum sound...

Yes, the performance is due principaly in the soundprocessing and the way to work the sound.
It's exactly what I need to know! Thanks à lot !!

the music you will make using battery will be different than the music you make with an mpc. an mpc has limitations that cater towards simpler music. the battery has almost no limitations, except that it is so vast you must have a vast knowledge to use it. i think you can get better real sounding drums with battery. i used the EXS24 (Logic sampler) for years, and realized that (as a drummer as well) i couldn't achieve the grooves by the touch of my finger using a computer at all because of latency. and if you want to make weird beats that are not quantized but you want absolute control over the milliseconds of the touch of hour finger, MPC is the way to go. the mpc makes a sound before you even touch it. i was so disenchanted for years, recording midi sequences in logic and then dragging notes here or there on a computer screen, then i hit an mpc pad and discovered the ability to execute intentionally. by touch. its nice not looking at a computer screen. i plan on synching my mpc500 to my exs24 in logic at some point, but im still learning to use the mpc standalone. i'll say the ultimate goal is to have your sample libraries nicely organized and evenly divided between software and hardware samplers depending on how you want to deliver the sample in a live or studio setting. i encourage to learn all types of samplers.
rustymack

Guru and Reason are great VST's for MPC-like beats. Although getting samples in reason isnt so nice. Im interested in exploring Guru, because its extremely simple and intuitive, and no one else is really using it. In contrast to the MPC which has been well mastered already.

thanks very much for your help!

It's very hard to make a computer stop sound like, well a computer. The mpc sounds like hardware and although it may have some limits it's a tool for musicians and very little else. The computer is a jack of all trades and also suffers limitations in sound quality from only so so sound engines. I use expensive gear and it makes very little difference because the computer is the problem. To me almost all hardware sound alive while computers sound like mp3's (souless).

to me it just depends on HOW u like to work. I've had both...Reason...an MPC...a Motif es. To me....theres nothing like hittin them pads and being hands on. While computer software has come a long way...and those rtas pro tools plug ins sound realistic..ummm the Kontakt vst's sound ill....i saw a dude on youtube replay the flutes from Hi-Teks "music 4 life" track...sounded just like it. However my beef with the computers is #1 in between sounds in say...Reason...u have to wait for it to load. Especially if u have the higher quality sounds like the Roland Fantom Facsimile. That shit **** with my creativity. I like to work on the fly. The Motif es is easier to do that on....plus them flutes in there sound like they kidnapped someone from the philharmonik choir! lol them joints are serious. #2 like someone before already said kind of like how imma say it.....i feel like a robot when im sitting in front of the computer making beats. Click this...copy paste...drag this...that shit works my nerves. But I think akai made the 500 to be used along side software....sort of like their answer to the m-audio trigger finger....a hybrib of the mpc and the mpd.

Yes Relavant Beats, I think it's really a question of method and way to work.
I'm working with Battery 3 and I think you can be suprised by the results.
I use very clean Kicks, snares, CC...with the good compression and others effects, I succed to boost my drum.

i like the mix of the two......as far as stacking drums and making 1 monster kick...i dont know if theres any comparison to the MPC other than the MV. When all i had was the motif es doing drums was the hardest part. i would end up with these simple 2 bar drum loops because of the way it sequences...and i felt clumsy tryna hit those lil ass keys at the pace i can easily do on the bigger MPC pads. I havent **** with Battery...so i'm not farmiliar with the sounds.....but if i had more money...no question..i would max out my computers RAM and HD etc...and cop every VST available just to vary my sound. Did u end up getting an MPC though?

Don't you just wish AKAI or whomever would design an emulation for vsti of the Mpc, I've used Guru and own it,+ battery,but their still a ways off from the workflow of the Mpc and design.. Akai if your listening!!

bobbybland wrote:Don't you just wish AKAI or whomever would design an emulation for vsti of the Mpc, I've used Guru and own it,+ battery,but their still a ways off from the workflow of the Mpc and design.. Akai if your listening!!

+1

You'd think I Nukai would come up with their own VST/AU plug-ins to incorporate with the MPD's, MPK's and the APC40.

JUKE 179r wrote:

bobbybland wrote:Don't you just wish AKAI or whomever would design an emulation for vsti of the Mpc, I've used Guru and own it,+ battery,but their still a ways off from the workflow of the Mpc and design.. Akai if your listening!!

+1

You'd think I Nukai would come up with their own VST/AU plug-ins to incorporate with the MPD's, MPK's and the APC40.

You´d think but if you really think´d you not´d.