Two questiones regarding Vailixi 3.50

I have had my 3k for about a month now and i love it. It is OS 3.03 and i am thinking about getting the mansell-labs Vailixi 3.50, so here are some questiones:


1. What exactly can be edited and processed in real time? everything? how about tempo changes, timing correct etc...

2. Ever since i had gotten my 3k, i have been frustrated by the fact that you can't tell a single sample to loop when it reached the end point like you can on any soft sampler (and also on s series samplers if i recall correctly). I would like to be able to do this and then change the end point in real time for a sped up/slowed down stutter effect. Will Vailixi allow this?

Thanks for your help...

It´s pretty straight forward and well written on the homepage.

The sample start and end points can be adjusted in "real time" but to have a musically tight result you are probably better off reassaigning the sample a couple of times and adjusting it´s end points accordingly to make your stutter effect. This can be done for each sample in "real time"

Yes the MPC 3000 does not loop. and it´s not a big loss. If you want a machine that loops then get a 2000xl. The strength and beauty of the 3000 lies somewhere completely else.

Oh yah, get the upgrade. It´s definitly worth every penny and then some.

ok, can anything else be edited in real time accept the "sample edit" menu?

wackdadyy, i don't understand how you suggest i make the stutter effect, can you clear this up for me? how will it go faster and faster?

I´m not sure what kind of stutter effect your after. With my idea, you would have to copy and assaign let´s say 8 pads with the same sample. Then you would have to shorten each sample to your musical liking and play them by hand in a "stutter" crescendo fashion.

If you want you could even change the pitch on each consecutive sample.

That´s the first thing I tought of if you wanted to do some kind of effect by shortening the sample length. Like you said the 3000 doesn´t loop, so changing the length won´t get you the drama - you got to do that yourself.

also try assinging Decay to the sample via the slider and you can change it in real time with that

flextone wrote:1. What exactly can be edited and processed in real time? everything? how about tempo changes, timing correct etc....

Exactly and only what is stated clearly on the www.mansell-labs.com website.

If stated then yes.

If not stated then no.

flextone wrote:2. Ever since i had gotten my 3k, i have been frustrated by the fact that you can't tell a single sample to loop when it reached the end point like you can on any soft sampler (and also on s series samplers if i recall correctly).

Sample looping 101.

Re-trigger the sample where and often as needed to effect loop style playback.

Set voice to MONO mode. So it will cut/restart if re-triggered.

flextone wrote:I would like to be able to do this and then change the end point in real time for a sped up/slowed down stutter effect. Will Vailixi allow this?.

The SAMPLE EDIT screen functions work in real time with Vailixi.

So, YES you could change a sample's pitch, end point, start point without stopping the sequencer.

flextone wrote:Thanks for your help...

No problem.

Rohan.

Sample looping 101.

Re-trigger the sample where and often as needed to effect loop style playback.

Set voice to MONO mode. So it will cut/restart if re-triggered.

Rohan, will setting the voice to mono re-trigger it at it's end point? that doesn't seem to be the case, i'm afraid i don't understand.

plz elaborate

You play it in mono and at the end of the bar or bars hit the pad again that is a easy to loop since there is no loop function.

You play it in mono and at the end of the bar or bars hit the pad again that is a easy to loop since there is no loop function.

7 1 4 Beats, what does that give me?

flextone wrote:

You play it in mono and at the end of the bar or bars hit the pad again that is a easy to loop since there is no loop function.

7 1 4 Beats, what does that give me?

Since there is no Loop function on the 3000 I sample my loop and then assign it to a pad then set the pad to mono and I go to the Edit screen and adjust the start & end points and play the pad instead of hittin play/stop so that way as I am truncatin I am playing the sample and it loops it's just another work around that you can do to lop on the 3000.

OK,

I'll rephrase my question, what i want to achieve is the following:

If you use an s series sampler, you can tell it to re-trigger the sound the moment it reached the end point. so if you play the sound that way and shorten the it's length gradually, it re-triggers faster and faster as the sample becomes shorter.

is there any way of doing something like that on the 3k?

flextone wrote:OK,

I'll rephrase my question, what i want to achieve is the following:

If you use an s series sampler, you can tell it to re-trigger the sound the moment it reached the end point. so if you play the sound that way and shorten the it's length gradually, it re-triggers faster and faster as the sample becomes shorter.

is there any way of doing something like that on the 3k?

NO!

ok, so what s series sampler should i get?

s3000? i don't have the cash to throw on a 950.

I´d read the manuals and then decide...
The S3000 has the same sound ans such as teh mpc 3000!!!
I would prefer the S6000 because it´s a beast and has lot´s of outputs. But that´s just me.

I don't get this man.... lol

i can loop on my 3000.. not by holding one pad.. but what the heck you need that function for ? i can loop fine by just programming it.