Direct Recording - LIVE Performance

Hi. Im reading through the MPC2500 manual. Pages 60-62 about the direct recording feature (recording live audio whilst the sequence in playing.

I dont have a 2500 yet but i like the sound of this feature for my live show. I would really like to be able to use this feature but im not sure if the manual is saying that the sequence can continue playing whilst you record, stop the recording and assign to a pad?

Can anyone clear this up for me please?

Thanks, Ben

apricotandpearjam wrote:Hi. Im reading through the MPC2500 manual. Pages 60-62 about the direct recording feature (recording live audio whilst the sequence in playing.

I dont have a 2500 yet but i like the sound of this feature for my live show. I would really like to be able to use this feature but im not sure if the manual is saying that the sequence can continue playing whilst you record, stop the recording and assign to a pad?

Can anyone clear this up for me please?

Thanks, Ben

the sequence plays while you record. after you're done recording the sequence stops, then you can assign the sample to a pad. if you assigned the sample to a pad you can add an event to trigger that pad to the current track so that the sample plays perfectly in time with the sequence as you recorded it.

Hi.

But you cant record continuously, like in a live performance situation you arent going to want to stop the sequence each time. . .

Thanks, Ben

apricotandpearjam wrote:But you cant record continuously, like in a live performance situation you arent going to want to stop the sequence each time. . .

No you can't...that's what makes Direct Recording pretty useless basically.

Do you know anything else that would allow me to do what i want in sync with an MPC?

Thanks again, Ben

apricotandpearjam wrote:Do you know anything else that would allow me to do what i want in sync with an MPC?

Another MPC

No really...you would have to have another machine to do that, whether it is an MPC or not. You know about machines like the Boss RC-20, RC-50, Electro Harmonix 2880 and such? Those are machines built for the purpose of live looping.

yes but they need to be in sync with the mpc so the mpc is sending the tempo signals. I need something thats hands on and great for muting parts in and out and stopping all the audio when i push stop on the mpc.

Any ideas?

Thanks

I know the RC-50 has MIDI, don't know about the 2880. Or just take any other groovebox/sampler. Basically you can sync everything manually also if you like, DJs do it everyday...

_Stilo_ wrote:No you can't...that's what makes Direct Recording pretty useless basically.

i completely disagree. it maybe makes it useless for live shows, but for recording cuts, keys, or any other instrument in time with the beat, it's perfect.

by the way, the 2000xl had no input thru and you couldn't play the sequence while you were in sample mode. the 2500 having that ability is a pretty big improvement in my opinion.

I agree its a big improvement, it would just be a hundred times better if you could keep the sequence running and sample. Not only for impulsive studio work but also for live performance. Its such a shame. I dont see why they cant get this to work? Its the only reason ive not bought one. I really need a solution for my live show, so i can loop audio and mpc sequences all in sync with midi.

Mike Feedback wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:No you can't...that's what makes Direct Recording pretty useless basically.

i completely disagree. it maybe makes it useless for live shows, but for recording cuts, keys, or any other instrument in time with the beat, it's perfect.

But can't you do the same thing in regular Record Mode as well? I don't see the advantage of Direct Recording.

I think the advantage is that you can do it while the sequence is running, over a beat so you can keep all the creative juices flowing. . .

_Stilo_ wrote:But can't you do the same thing in regular Record Mode as well? I don't see the advantage of Direct Recording.

in record mode your sample can't automatically be placed in the sequence so that it gets played in sync with your beat after sampling.

if you have a 100 bar sequence, you can play the sequence and then start direct recording in the middle of bar 71. when you're done, you can assign that sound to a pad, and it can add an event to trigger that pad to the exact step you began recording in the middle of bar 71.

you can't do that in record mode, you'd have to guess to figure out what step to trigger the sample to get it in sync with the beat. direct record would save you a ton of time, and it's exact.

I've been down this route and yes it sucks ballsh.



Does anyone know what happens in the JJ OS regarding this feature?


The new MPC2500 Music Production Center is the recognized industry standard, a 32-voice drum/phrase sampler with up to 128 MB of RAM and extensive editing control. Designed for professional music production environments and DJs and live club performers, the MPC2500 features a time-tested user interface, responsive velocity- and pressure-sensitive pads, twin onboard effects processors, four Q-Link controllers (two sliders/two knobs) for extensive real-time control, plus 10 outputs and a S/PDIF digital output.

What do you mean JJ OS?