OS1 trim screen behavior not consistent with Akai OS

In the Akai OS when you are in TRIM mode and you select either the start or end point fields, you can use SHIFT + the cursor keys to select a range of digits that will be affected by the jog wheel.

This is not possible in JJ OS, and the only way to select a smaller increment is to zoom in on the waveform.

I've emailed JJ about adding this feature back, would anyone else be interested in having it back.

A friend of mine is probably about to switch from the 2000 to the 1000 and this is one feature that he will not want to sacrifice.

It's even marked on the left and right cursor keys as SHIFT being for digit selection, so I see no reason why this functionality should be missing

Yeah i needed that shit in Akai os because moving around in sample sucked, but i dunno why you would need it on OS2?

jjs way to use the jog wheel is WAY easier, faster and more intuitive. you won't switch back once you got that akai behaviour out of your mind.

that's not the point though, it's marked on the cursor keys so the functionality should remain

and I'm speaking on OS 1, not OS 2

I personally never used it, but for someone coming from a 2000 that's going to be the way of working they are used to and I think its strange for a function that is marked on the keys to not work in JJ OS

and I do have to disagree on the intuitiveness of the JJ method -- it makes sense just fine, but why zoom in if you don't have to?

I don't see how it could hurt to be able to select the digit from any zoom level you like

yeah you're right, that won't hurt...

just use da q link for big moves dats da best way right derr

Are you out of your mind??


Use the jog wheel, then use the zoom in and zoom out funtions ot oget around.

I didn't even know such a feature existed in the AKAI OS. Not a bad thing though. In JJ-OS however, you can also hold [SHIFT] and turn the DATA wheel to speed up the cursor...

And since we are speaking of Trim Mode anyway... In the newer versions of the JJ-OS, I think TRIM Mode has slow downs when it comes to editing longer samples (5+ seconds). Also, when you change a start or end point during playback, it affects the whole sequence to slow down - the playback is almost interrupted and then stumbles back in. Did somebody else notice that too?
I cannot recall if these things are present with the AKAI OS, cause I haven't been using it since a year or so. I think this could be optimized.

I dont think you can even edit samples during playback on the akai OS. It is an Interesting one though cause you change sample start/end using the note on qlink stuff without the sequencer glitching.

mikolo wrote:I dont think you can even edit samples during playback on the akai OS. It is an Interesting one though cause you change sample start/end using the note on qlink stuff without the sequencer glitching.

>> Okay I'l try qlink for sample start/end. Yes, this works better - no glitching. The JJ-OS provides so many features, that sometimes you forget about some of them. That's why I used the trim edit to do this during playback, which is possible, but slows down the machine.. thx for the advice

hey stan,no worries...its was more of an observation as much as anything though,i think id find it a little arkward using the qlink to sample start for sample editing...its just weird that in one screen theres glitching but another screen there isn't even though the mpc's doing pretty much the same thing.

thedvs01 wrote:and I do have to disagree on the intuitiveness of the JJ method -- it makes sense just fine, but why zoom in if you don't have to?

100% agree!!!

there are so many times where i just want to fix the start point slightly, and i can just rely on my ears. i don't need to visually see the waveform.
but in order to change the start point in single ticks i'm forced to zoom in. its annoying as hell...

i think it would be great if he would just have "some button" + jog wheel to move in smaller increments (basically the exact opposite to how shift + jog wheel already works now to move in bigger increments).

I'm using OS 1 and you can still do that. Only difference is you instead of holding down the after key, you just press it once and then you can move the start / end times w/ the q-link. I'm not sure if this is what your asking or not.

vanysh wrote:I'm using OS 1 and you can still do that. Only difference is you instead of holding down the after key, you just press it once and then you can move the start / end times w/ the q-link. I'm not sure if this is what your asking or not.

nah, i'm not talking about using the q-links. i'm just talking using the jog wheel. if you want to move by single digits you HAVE to zoom in. there's no other way around it.

when working with lots of samples, its an annoying extra set of steps to have to deal with repeatedly.