Chopping Tutorial.

Soundwave aka Decepticon made something that shouldve been posted as content for the mpc-tutor site. The cat's outta the bag.

Time-stretching would be a good addition to your page.

Like the beatnuts said, you get props over here.

Not to step on anyone's toes, but like some cats think timestretching is cheating, do you guys consider zone chopping cheating since your XL does it for you, as opposed to cats that have like mpc3000's or old 2000's that have to do it manually? I was just wondering.

Toecutter wrote:Not to step on anyone's toes, but like some cats think timestretching is cheating, do you guys consider zone chopping cheating since your XL does it for you, as opposed to cats that have like mpc3000's or old 2000's that have to do it manually? I was just wondering.

Hell no, lol... The zoning just makes it a little easier, thats all. Its not like it can detect different individual beats and slice up your sample all perfect for you automatically like ReCycle (If you wanna call something cheating, when it comes to sample chopping, then it should be that program...). The only way it (the 2000xl) chops a sample into perfectly useable pieces automaticlly is if you have a perfectly trimmed and looped , plain-jane, vanilla-@ss , 1 to 2 bar drumloop with no type of groove or syncopation, and you select 8 or 16 zones. Or a loop that just happens to work like that, like the one I provided in the tutorial. Anything other than that and you're gonna have to manually select the Zones, which is a pain in the @ss, but very rewarding.


I love the Zone feature. As long as it still requires user input, unlike ReCycle, it's not cheating to me, it's just a time saver.

Recycle is great put sometimes it`s too fine in its chopping which can cause some problems. Chopping to get change the tempo of the drum loop is fine with Recycle, but for a phrase loop unless I`m using the grid mode to count out the beats and setting the slices myself it can be a hassle when transferring back to the MPC. I still have to go back and trim the slices down within a keygroup. After read Deception tutorial I`m gone back to phrase chopping on the MPC mainly it is more rewarding and the trimming and program creating working better with less steps. Some work, but it`s rewarding listening to a new creation!

man i got the classic 2000, so this zone shyt sounds ill. kinda like cheatin hahaha

hey here's a program I found to chop up samples if you have a mpc1000.
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/YoGenFileSplitter/.

i dont think so, half the time you gotta adjust the zones, sometimes its easier just to not use it. Like deception said man, unless the loops perfect.

The reason i like the zone is because sometimes ill loose my spot, on the sample and it takes alittle more time.

timestretch is not cheating, because like the zone, half the freakin time it doesnt work. So its a skill in itself getting it to sound good. (when it does it bangs!) i also dont like detuning all the time, because that means more detuning with the bass etc. or not the same feel to the sample.

anyways just my opium.

I was just asking, cause I know some cats probably think that it's cheating since some cats think timestretch is cheating. I really don't even care, just curious, cause I always look at it like whatever tools you use to get the job done that gets you the results you want and works is good, as long as you respect the rules. Some cats draw some extra rules on some other ish, I was curious. Any more opinions drop 'em here!

dstruction wrote:man i got the classic 2000, so this zone shyt sounds ill. kinda like cheatin hahaha

2000 XL is just a upgrade away!!! Plus the 3000 has zones but you couldn`t slice with it. Had to make all those copies and sections to chop up!! Unless you went to a pro studio and use a full sampler.

yo decepticon, that joint was good as hell. im tryin to work it on a couple of loops that i sampled. but it's hard since they got a drum loop in there. so when i chop it up, the background sounds good, but the drum loop makes it sound bad. i'll keep at it tho.

here's some more ideas for tutorials:

chopping pt. 2
drum patterns
filtering
using the max out of your XL

How to get the two stacks back with out getting caught.......J/K

But you might as well do a basic introduction to making tracks and the steps the newbie's as well as the learned could benifit from.......Your site is tight I think I told you that before



The tutorial was on point like a muvafucca fam......Keep up the good work

I didnt revisit out your way yet but I have been out in Freehold in the mall area

Big up Decepticon3107.....Job well done

A it 's not cheating to use something that came factory on my mpc, i want to use my equipment, i paid to the fullest, if those other people didnt get it with there equipment , you need to to take your sh!t back and get an mpc 2000xl,
it not our fault that akai put that on the 2000xl. besides you got to teak your samples to fit in to your drum pattern any ways you don't just leave it the way it is , at least i dont,
that something i learned from this forum you need to teak your music so it don't sound like you bit off someone else, who used the same sample.

some nubees need to learn to use your equipment. asking for help is cool ,but asking for some one make drum pattern tutorial is like cheating. learn to makeyour own patterns ,whats the point of having the machine then, use your fingers to pound out drum patterns,there's a killer thread that dubmonkey put up called basic drumming, it shows you how to play the drums real quick,not saying that i can playall that great but i make my own patterns and i've anly been on the box for 4 yrs . i hope i dont offend any one , i just think there's to many producers out there that get a free ride, and don't take the time to learn what they are getting in to.

decepticon an idea for a tutorial in my books, in the trim feild in the edit window there's two windows ,
1-section>new sound
2-insert sound>section start
tried to figure them out but i'm not understanding something,
anyways, thanks for your tutoring i kno alot of us on heregot some thing out of it,or even just refreshed some things in our music.


no hard feelings to anyone
peace e.d.e

i agree with ^^^^^^ about the drums. I mean, it would be nice to have like a faq list for drums, but man if you cant do the basic boom boom bip, I dont know what a tutorial would do? it would have to be aimed at advanced druming techniques on the mpc. The drums are essential though, so it would be nice to sort of see how someone else is doing it, but......If you are interested, at one point i started writing a drum tutorial. Like how to read drum tab, and how to understand how the patterns work, some insight on hiphop patterns, etc. I never finished it but it was a good start. I then lost interest in it(no real time to write it)-it was like 6 pages long, full pages. ill go back to it and see what is still needed. I'll try to post it in a separate thread.

peace

It's called BOOM BAP for a reason!

i didnt know that you could change the number of zones. thats hot! thanks for teaching me!