3000 sample editor for mac???

i know there is better way to edit on this thing than what i am doing. this is taking forever! what are the chances of a sample editor for mac?? similar to the one mpc3000 has for the pc. anything?

right now i am copying, then chopping, then copying, then chopping, then copying, then chopping, etc....

maybe im spoiled from the 2000xl's zone chop function, but i just spent like an hour and a half chopping up a drum line. and the 3000 wont read the 2000s .snd files, so im @ss out right now.

any suggestions?

I don't use copy as a primary way anymore. The quickest way is to just sample single sounds and edit them. Even on drums, this is way quicker and lets you adjust the levels for each sound. Now I only use copy in rare instances where I get something like a cool pop or TT stop sound that I can't repeat and sample singly.

i copy, cut, copy cut, copy cut

unless im just loading samples from mpc editor, but anything off the vinyl takes a little bit of work
thats the downside to hardware.. you cant rip through a bunch of things at once

u get the hang of it tho

maybe u should try doing all your editing in cooledit/soundforge type dilly

I used to do the copy cut, but I found just going one sound at a time was much faster. Try it you will see.

first off i dont have a pc, so soundforge, mpc editor, etc. are out of the question. im definitely not going to buy a pc just edit on.

second off, i can rip thru a ton of samples on my mpc2000xl, a hardware device, so saying you cant do that is untrue.

i think if i wasnt so used to being able to rip thru my samples real quickly i probably wouldnt even be worrying about it, but i just feel like im wasting time and creativity.

i think this things going on ebay. it was a short but sweet relationship, but the 3000 is just not for me.

+sides: filters are real nice, sequencer is dope

-sides: i cant edit as fast as i want to.

i dont need both machines, soooooo..........

i feel you, for me, it was the opposite way around, i found the 2000 way to long winded to edit samples.

i wouldnt mind tryin out a 2000

no doubt. to each his own. im just used to zone chopping and sampling a really long segment, then choppin it up. not sampling each little bit as i go. thats actually how i first started, sampling bit by bit, but once i figured out zone chops, i aint looked back.

yup, I can see that. I like chopping that way too, but I found I get more control the otherway. Control may not be what you are after, so do your thing Mesh.

i think in my case actually on my 60, since i dont have alot of memory to work with i really chose my samples carfully and dont really end up editing THAT many samples..
like i said in another post, i dont get alot of experimentation on my mpc, i leave that more to the pc software (especially when i dab into drum n bass and weird synth stuff..)

but when i wanna make those dope hiphop loops the 60 is the ish!!

I recently switched my technique to minimize the copy and pasting because it takes a little while to do so I chose to use it judiciously.

For drum sounds I just try and catch one sound and just trim it. Circumstances will make me copy, but I try to minimize it now and have stopped using it as the main technique. I used to sample 5 seconds of drums and have a series of .1 second samples of nothing to paste to, then copy and paste and delete the 100 milliseconds that were there originally and delete the copied section from the source sample file.

It works well, but is slower than just sampling a single hit and trimming it, then sampling the next hit.

If I fill up my pads designated to a certain drum sound (4 kicks 4 snares 4 Hihats per bank usually) I will find the weakest snare or whatever sample and replace it with the one I am sampling then. I find this way I take more care in the sounds I choose, and end up with a better kit than if I had lots of memory and just kept everything.

After I have everything sampled in the kit, all banks filled, I mess with the envelopes until I get each sample where and how I want it. Then I am ready to rock. It is possible to use the MPC editor to do this, but I find sampling right into the machine from vinyl is much better as far as sound and judging the samples against the others.

I have also noticed that the MPC editor exported samples (this may be with all 3000 converted sounds by the way, not just the editor) don't allow me to tune the sample up. If I 16 level it and select pad 10 as center, pads 14, and 15, and 16 have the same pitch. I haven't tested this with decay or any other 16 level function. I suspect this is a 3000 sample importation limitation on the 3.10 OS. If I select pad 13 it tunes upwards just fine.

I have a lot of fun sampling on the 60 directly, as time consuming it can be compared to the computer, I find that the sound of the samples I process in Soundforge (particularly with it's ugly EQ) don't match the directly sampled sounds.

Also as easy as it is to chop on a computer, it isn't as fun as sampling right into the machine. This is why I can Agree with Mesh on using a machine that allows you to work primarily on it rather than using a computer or anything else to augment it. If you are used to chopping up large sections up and that is how you prefer to do it, it makes sense to use a machine that lets you do it.

I have found that the limits of the 60 do inspire creativity that allows great control over your finished sound. I wouldn't call these "work arounds" since the end product is not the same to me. Being able to raise the volume on a specific sample before sampling and getting that gritty distortion where and how I want it right at sampling is part of the process that I have just discovered and thoroughly enjoy.

If I had a hihat in a break that is low in volume, I would have to sample it again anyway if I wanted to do this. Plus The digital normalizing on the computer takes much of the quality away now that I can compare the two side by side.

Mesh;
Have you found MPCPGMMaker yet?
It's a Mac program much like the PC MPC Editor.
Search for it here.

I use it everyday.
Use it and you can do it your way.

Peace.

word, thanx homer, thats what i was looking for. i knew it existed somewhere.

so i got the dam thing, think i might keep the 3000 for a bit longer

anybody know if the pc version can export program parameters like tuning, filter settings and the like?

just wandering, we got a pc at work that i might take advantage of for this, but i dunno.

Yeah. MPC Editor does that stuff.
Seishu, who makes the Mac program has thought about it, but found it not as helpful as it appears to be. I can see both ways, but I probably wouldn't use that feature too often.

Peace.