Questions about the mpc 5000: shoot

Thanks for the explanation mp3. That covers the more scientific part of my question, but I am still wondering about the implementation of a 'nudge' for want of a better term, and how easy it is to carry out on the latest MPC's?

After my first post I remembered how I used to go about achieving what I am talking about in the 2kxl. Say I had a hi hat pattern recorded with no quantize that was cool but hitting a little early. I would do the two most obvious things - adjust the start point of the sample (asuming I had some air at the beginning), or copy the entire track along a few ticks which worked quite well but could also be hit and miss.

I just hope that the 5k has a more streamlined approach to this as 960 ppqn opens up a world of possibilities for creative programmers. I love the MPC way of working, but I don't want my music to always sound like it has come straight off an MPC. That make any sense?? I also realise that the 5k wont be able to compete with the likes of Cubase in the sequencing department, but if I could produce 50% of a track in the MPC before bouncing it to the PC then I would be very happy!

Thanks again.

Coz

You can enter sequence/step/grid edit modes and copy/move/shift timing of a note from one step to another.

In the sequence edit mode, you can use the MPCs pads/MIDI keyboard controller to select one or more sounds to copy/move/shift timing.

Ahh ok, thanks for that Askia Shaheed. It actually sounds quite comprehensive.

Coz wrote:Thanks for the explanation mp3. That covers the more scientific part of my question, but I am still wondering about the implementation of a 'nudge' for want of a better term, and how easy it is to carry out on the latest MPC's?

After my first post I remembered how I used to go about achieving what I am talking about in the 2kxl. Say I had a hi hat pattern recorded with no quantize that was cool but hitting a little early. I would do the two most obvious things - adjust the start point of the sample (asuming I had some air at the beginning), or copy the entire track along a few ticks which worked quite well but could also be hit and miss.

I just hope that the 5k has a more streamlined approach to this as 960 ppqn opens up a world of possibilities for creative programmers. I love the MPC way of working, but I don't want my music to always sound like it has come straight off an MPC. That make any sense?? I also realise that the 5k wont be able to compete with the likes of Cubase in the sequencing department, but if I could produce 50% of a track in the MPC before bouncing it to the PC then I would be very happy!

Thanks again.

Coz

might come true

scd wrote:

Dj Solace wrote:Maybe my last question lol , can you sample at lower resolutions then 16 bit 44.1 .... meaning when i hit sample is there a option to lower it to 12 or 8 bit sampling?

Nope, you can't. But you can send your sample through the Decimator or Resampler effect which will give a lot of bit reduction joy

Decimator removes samples without trying to hide the artifacts caused by it
Resampler does the same but will try to keep the soundquality. This effect is probably what you're after

I already know your next question...

The 'resampler' effect and the 'old skool' setting in the master compressor work as promised! They are two of my favorite features for just using the machine two days in. I can't wait to use this in actual projects. Just experiment and you'll see what I mean.

on 5000 if you chop up a sample into 16 or whatever zones, will those zones automatically spread across the pads. so each pad will play different zone while you still in slice view adjusting end and start points ?

rather than moving with cursor to the next zone like on mpc 2500

No. There is a different and usefull logic behind the behavior of the PAD when in Trim or loop mode.

Pads 1-12 Play the sample or Currently selected Slice
Pad 13 Plays from the Loop point to the end point repeatedly, or when slicing beginning to end.
Pad 14 Will play everything before the Currently selected Slice
Pad 15 will play ALL slices from your currently selected one on. (Nothing before it)
Pad 16 will Play all slices beginning to end.

Make Sense?

^yea, thanks...seems it isnt anything different than 2500 or 1000. I was hoping the 5000 would have that feature

does chopping in the 4000 work the same way? or does hitting each pad on the 4000 highlight the related chop point?

I can't remember if I asked this already, but this is possibly the most important question for me: Can I hear an external audio source that's connected to the MPC Audio Ins while I'm in the main sequencing window and what not? Cause on the 2000xl (why? why would you release such an expensive ass machine where you can only hear the audio source while sampling?) you gotta go into Sample mode to hear the source.

anyone know?

No, the MPC 4000 regions work in the same fashion as the newer models. The pad highlighting feature is only found on the Roland Fantom X and MV. Also the Korg M3.

The 5000 and 2500 have the input thru feature that lets you constantly monitor a signal on the inputs. It even has its own mixer channel and can be mixed down to hard disk.

Righetous......hook it up with some chron connects.

Don't roll like that.

LvngDead wrote:I can't remember if I asked this already, but this is possibly the most important question for me: Can I hear an external audio source that's connected to the MPC Audio Ins while I'm in the main sequencing window and what not? Cause on the 2000xl (why? why would you release such an expensive ass machine where you can only hear the audio source while sampling?) you gotta go into Sample mode to hear the source.

anyone know?

Yes! You can. In fact you could since the 2500. Called "Input Thru".

b-righteous wrote:No, the MPC 4000 regions work in the same fashion as the newer models. The pad highlighting feature is only found on the Roland Fantom X and MV. Also the Korg M3.

I'm not 100 on this cuz it's been a while when I had my 4k, but I dont think you can have zones on 4000 same way it's done on the xl, 1k, 2.5k or 5k.

yea roland has that pad highlighting feature