Think of upgrading from the MPC 3000 to 5000. Any Answers??

I'm thinking of making the up jump from the MPC 3K to the 5000. But "im wondering:

-How will my MPC 5000 be able to read sounds and DISK for my 3000??

-What exactly are "Q-links" and how do they work?? Can you use them when sampling/Chopping/Sequencing?

- Does it support .SND files??


Thanks in Advance,
Philly Stress

-How will my MPC 5000 be able to read sounds and DISK for my 3000??

i guess fine, it s suposed to import the 3000 programs

- Does it support .SND files??

yes

-What exactly are "Q-links" and how do they work?? Can you use them when sampling/Chopping/Sequencing?

q link is basically a midi controler you can assign to many parameters of the mpc (built in synth, effects, mixer, external midi, start point end point etc....)

best is to have a look to the manual to see what you can do with it

http://www.akaipro.com/contentmgr/showd ... /1044/tt/5

cheers

You will have to think very carefully before you make that move. If you get rid of the MPC 3000, you will be losing that "warm" sound and awesome Roger Linn-flavored MPC swing................

the 3000 is 16bit like the 5000

i guess you r talking of the warm sound of the MPC 60, aren t you ?

tomazzzi wrote:the 3000 is 16bit like the 5000

i guess you r talking of the warm sound of the MPC 60, aren t you ?

No...I am talking about the "warm" sound of the MPC 3000.

The MPC 1000, 2000, 2000XL, 2500, 3000, and 5000 are all 16 bit. But you will start a fight around here if you say they all sound the same

Askia Shaheed wrote:

tomazzzi wrote:the 3000 is 16bit like the 5000

i guess you r talking of the warm sound of the MPC 60, aren t you ?

No...I am talking about the "warm" sound of the MPC 3000.

The MPC 1000, 2000, 2000XL, 2500, 3000, and 5000 are all 16 bit. But you will start a fight around here if you say they all sound the same

I've used MPC 3000 for a while now. While it does "thump" a little harder that a some of the other MPC's it is a bit older sounding and that's not a always a good thing. To me drum sounds sound almost unparalleled inside it , in the correct hands.But stereo samples can initially sound stale or even muddy in MPC 3k. I work with samples a lot want to mess with timestretch and beat slicing etc. I may just keep the 3k in cut though.

Don't do it! The 5000 will not read 60, 2000, 3000, & 4000 SNDs, Programs, etc... I would keep the 3000 and just buy the 5000, if that's what you want to do. I used the 3000 & 4000, and I'm staying with them!

Inaccurate read the manual never assume. The 5k reads the snd samples via computer but not the 3k mid sequences pity.

Blue Haze wrote:Inaccurate read the manual never assume. The 5k reads the snd samples via computer but not the 3k mid sequences pity.

It won't read 4000 programs because Akai is trying to do away with it!

Blue Haze wrote:Inaccurate read the manual never assume. The 5k reads the snd samples via computer but not the 3k mid sequences pity.

Maybe not the MPC 3000s SEQ file but I believe the MPC 3000 has an option to save it's sequences in a standard MIDI file which nearly all sequencers should be able to read including the MPC 5000.

bomb beats wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:Inaccurate read the manual never assume. The 5k reads the snd samples via computer but not the 3k mid sequences pity.

It won't read 4000 programs because Akai is trying to do away with it!

Read the manual it says it loads 4k drum programs. Not the keygroups. Never assume look it up for yourself.

Turn to page 180 in black and white.

Blue Haze wrote:Read the manual it says it loads 4k drum programs. Not the keygroups. Never assume look it up for yourself.

Turn to page 180 in black and white.

Correct. It reads as much as it can from all the previous MPC's. If you noticed the 4000 is a SIGNIFICANTLY different perating system completely so interfacing the two is not so easy.

the 5000 has a much smaller learning curve than the 4000 because it is deliberately laid out so people can get up and running quickly on it.

MUSIII wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:Read the manual it says it loads 4k drum programs. Not the keygroups. Never assume look it up for yourself.

Turn to page 180 in black and white.

Correct. It reads as much as it can from all the previous MPC's. If you noticed the 4000 is a SIGNIFICANTLY different perating system completely so interfacing the two is not so easy.

the 5000 has a much smaller learning curve than the 4000 because it is deliberately laid out so people can get up and running quickly on it.

Yes that is right the 4k use AKP programs from the S5000 and 6000 series up to the Z8 consisting of Keygroup programs so that is the main problem why only the drum programs can be load as the 5k is a drum sampler mainly.

5k is laid out similar to a 2500 aka 2xl deluxe no different than a any other mpc. The 4k isn`t confusing it just has more parameters to use and the qlink isn`t automated for you like the 5k is. However that kind of limit one to presets in my book so I enjoy the 4k`s layout in my opinion giving me alot of opinions. Yet still I agree that the 5k is very simplified so anyone right out the box can do something starting out.

Blue Haze wrote:
5k is laid out similar to a 2500 aka 2xl deluxe no different than a any other mpc. The 4k isn`t confusing it just has more parameters to use and the qlink isn`t automated for you like the 5k is. However that kind of limit one to presets in my book so I enjoy the 4k`s layout in my opinion giving me alot of options. Yet still I agree that the 5k is very simplified so anyone right out the box can do something starting out.

Exactly my point. This was done deliberately.

why? he makes a good point.

i am afraid in the last that they've made a habit of sacrificing deep functionality for immediate ease of use...at times skimping on both.

i base this off the factory os's of the last 3 models and from what i read/glean from the 5000 os.

it's easy as hell to load a couple 1shots and bang away

but chopping a large sample and editing multiple parameters...
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