Patch Phrase??

Ok so I've just spent a lot of time making myself familiar with Mr MPC 1000 (several months), and am finally seeing the machine and its
functions in a non newby style way. I have recently dl'd the JJOS 1 and in the grand scheme of things i'm content.
However and this may infuriate some o yu guys, I pose this question:

Patch Phrase???WHy?What do you guys use it 4 in a practical sense, as i'm missing the point on it's usage ?

Thanks

no you don't... patched phrase is pretty useless and limited. only mono, plus it sounds terrible almost every time you could use it. which is not very often. so just forget about pp.

good question, I wondered that myself but u should try the MPC1000 forum somebody there should know.

Patch Phrase is doo doo.

experiment with it, get granular, use it in conjunction with the mpcs other functions like fx, q-link filter,and resample.

I always thought I was just missing something... What is it designed for?

TBH, I'd like some info on this as well. There's a couple of videos on YouTube, where the guy appears to do realtime time-stretching (without altering pitch) and pitch-shifting (without changing speed). I tried it at home, but got nowhere probably should try harder, but could use some help.

its main function is to lock the loop into the sequence and follow the master tempo. this allows you to transpose it freely without altering the length, and can get busy on 16 levels with a patched phrase. the guitar riff they used it on in th demo files sounds cool.

if you have ever used a phrase(loop) sampler, you can relate to it easily.

Oh, I love this function. Now that I realize how to go about it on this machine... Don't get rid of it please...

hey, dont be hatin on the PP!

its invaluable in the MPC 'standalone' arena......

its a bit grubby and its often quite apparent that a PP's being used, but its ace for turning a breakbeat into a rubber version of itself. it can keep a tidy cropped 4bar or 2 bar (etc...) break fixed to the seq tempo and its perfect when used to wildly crunch/stretch the breaks around in pitch and tempo.....

ie, often i use the Qlink1 to control the tempo of the seq, yet tie the Qlink2 to the pitch of the PP.

then as the two Q's are ripped around, the effect is very fly - if a little pitch shifty (afterall - thats what its doing).....as MPC_Monk said, add fx and/or a few lfo/filter bits n bobs, and the effect is deepened by Pi.

i'm getting the vibe off the guys who never use/or dont like the PP' used at its optimum, tend not to go for out of the way styles, and stick to the beaten track* - oft trudged by a many a straightupboretype.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


*phew, nasty pun there sorry.

So, say I chopped a break into a patched phrase; this creates a new sample with PP appended to the name. Do I put this new sample in a program and record to a sequence, just like any other sample? and it should follow the sequence's tempo? This didn't seem to work for me.

thats the way, but if it aint workin 4 u then theres something a miss.

are you sure u got the break's tempo correct in the first place?, kinda important - as the beats of the break will then be broken up neatly into 8ths or 16ths etc....that then run as pulses in in time at the beat steps in the sequence.

choose a large END value to make the gaps between chunks less audible......

Oops, I forgot about setting the tempo
Thanks arebee, that must be it!

nanoloop wrote:its main function is to lock the loop into the sequence and follow the master tempo. this allows you to transpose it freely without altering the length, and can get busy on 16 levels with a patched phrase. the guitar riff they used it on in th demo files sounds cool.

if you have ever used a phrase(loop) sampler, you can relate to it easily.

is that guitar riff on the 128MB CF card that comes with the MPC1000?

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Did not want to start another topic. I can't seem to get the patched phrase function to work properly. I record some simple beat into an audio track, 2 bars, in my example at 93 BPM. It's all in sync because the sound is coming from the Yamaha Rm1x groovebox which is synced to the MPC. As you can see on the pics, after converting the sample into a patched phrase it shows up shorter than 2 bars, what could be the reason?

Thats because its not designed to be used in AUDIO track....
PP must be used in standard program (DRUM) to work properly...