Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By MoonBased Sun May 18, 2008 12:38 am
maybe its my sound quality or the way i chop.... im still not comfortable chopping back on a mpc again...

but im having a hard time getting a drum pattern going i didn't have that problem on the xl and 2000...

it just feels too lose, even when i use time correct its still off beat...

i heard the 60 had some swing but damn!!!! :)

im pretty sure its cuz im sampling from my computer headphone out... and im not too comfy with the numerical chop...

but even looking past that... i try my beat and i was only able to make a few good drum patterns that had swing but were on beat...

any tips on how to layer? or get on point?
By fobedafied Sun May 18, 2008 3:34 am
MoonBased wrote: and im not too comfy with the numerical chop...



the 60 sampling rate is 40,000 right!??! so numerically, 1 second is equal to 40,000 samples... keep that in mind when chopping... :wink:
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By oLee.eeZus Sun May 18, 2008 11:27 am
i came across tha same problems when sampling drums from breaks(which is tha only way) on a 60...
¿does it seem like your pads don't hit on tha attack of tha drum?
go to edit > sounds ,and fck wit tha soft start and soft end ish...
if that don't help i always, play wit tha start time, tell you obviously hear whats you wanna hear...
from what i grasp wit my 60 is its all about what i hear! not necessarily what tha screen says...
take it straight from wax, max tha sound so it sounds crispy but not distorted and record it.
then breaks should be preMo! always test wit that time correction too... it can add some funk!
sorry if this post in under your knees or over your head...?
have.fun
.yall.
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By oLee.eeZus Sun May 18, 2008 11:29 am
or maybe a lil spring cleaning of tha pads...?
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By BenHoughton Sun May 18, 2008 1:23 pm
sometimes there can be a lot of "air" before the attack of the sample when you chop by numbers. One good way to get the start point super accurate is pitch the sample way down. Now youll hear this low rumble (the air) and then this thunder noise (the drum hit) and you can set the start point really precision so there's hardly any air. Its like slo-mo chopping!! Then just pitch it back up and you're set.
Then when you sequence, the hits should be bang on time!
Unless the problem is with the 60 sequencer itself...
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By Lampdog Sun May 18, 2008 3:02 pm
BenHoughton wrote:sometimes there can be a lot of "air" before the attack of the sample when you chop by numbers. One good way to get the start point super accurate is pitch the sample way down. Now youll hear this low rumble (the air) and then this thunder noise (the drum hit) and you can set the start point really precision so there's hardly any air. Its like slo-mo chopping!! Then just pitch it back up and you're set.
Then when you sequence, the hits should be bang on time!
Unless the problem is with the 60 sequencer itself...


I use to do this with my asr10, works really well, dead on everytime.
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By MoonBased Thu May 22, 2008 11:28 pm
YUP!!! it was my chops... they had tones of air at the start point...

i just got me a Floppie full of drums that were chopped on a PC and it sounds real clean and swinging.
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By deck daddy Fri May 23, 2008 10:45 am
I have used this pitch down-trick alot.

So I made a program where A13 (upper left pad) is pitched down as much as possible.
Call that program "STARTUP" and it autoloads (at least on my 3000).
Then this is my "trimmingpad", I assign all samples that needs to be trimmed to this pad.

FAST AND EASY!

Another trick is just like with the SP1200: On the SP I use the "note on" feature to trig the sample really really fast. Then I just move the start point until I hear a razor-machine sound: that's the start of the sample. If you move the start point further into the sample it's razor-mayhem.

With this you could make a 1bar sequence that trigs the A14 (with normal pitch settings) at a high timing correction number (ex. 32 1/3). Assign a sample, press play and voila: razer-sharp drums.

I love how easy and fast this works on the SP1200. Wish that the "help"-button on the 3000 could have this feature too, that would be DOPE!