Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By master-ceo Sat May 24, 2008 10:52 pm
"JJ - JJ (Hayashi) did work for us. He was the software engineer on the MPC1000 and MPC2500. He was the one that introduced all the bugs that those machines originally shipped with. He even broke the MTC on the MPC2500 before he left us so that he could then fix it and then charge customers himself. He stole our code, and charged customers for OS fixes that we would have had him do and released for free. We chose not to take legal action even though we had every right to because it would hurt the customers. He will not be working for us again. We are in process of fixing the existing bugs as well as adding the Chopshop 2.0 feature from the MPC5000."

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Not that I care, lol.
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By Sooty_G Sat May 24, 2008 11:52 pm
master-ceo wrote:"JJ - JJ (Hayashi) did work for us. He was the software engineer on the MPC1000 and MPC2500. He was the one that introduced all the bugs that those machines originally shipped with. He even broke the MTC on the MPC2500 before he left us so that he could then fix it and then charge customers himself. He stole our code, and charged customers for OS fixes that we would have had him do and released for free. We chose not to take legal action even though we had every right to because it would hurt the customers. He will not be working for us again. We are in process of fixing the existing bugs as well as adding the Chopshop 2.0 feature from the MPC5000."


wow. the smell of bullsh!t is overwhelming!

who are you gonna believe? some anonymous dude with a post count of *1* putting some pixels on a screen, or the fact that JJ has coded 2 OS's with practically weekly updates for years while akai had done exactly zilch?

let's assume everything that guy is saying is true. so you're telling me some company (especially one facing bankruptcy) is NOT gonna sue the guy who STOLE their copywritten code & is making a profit off of it? especially when they are apparently aware of his identity?!

are you also telling me that akai was unable to hire another person (or even 10 other people!) to code updates/bug fixes to it's own OS to compete with JJ?

are you telling me that akai had the resources to develop the mpc 5000 (a huge beast with it's own synth engine for fukcs sake!) yet just couldn't get it together to fix the well known bugs with the 1000 & 2500 OS?

it's the internet. you can never be sure who is who and what is what. but what you CAN do is use your own logic & critical thinking and i gotta say that guys post just doesn't compute.
By dtaa pla muk Sun May 25, 2008 1:59 am
there's truth in this, but it's pretty clearly leaned toward "akai the innocent."

as sooty said:

are you also telling me that akai was unable to hire another person (or even 10 other people!) to code updates/bug fixes to it's own OS?


the fact that akai's left significant bugs in their code for this long (1+ year after 500) is inexcusable

apparently they're finally updating the 500 code
but their slow pace and "closed door" approach is mad inconvenient for users who dropped close to a thousand bucks on their overpriced products

it's clear that progress can be made, quickly. jj's demonstrated this.
they should never have laid off the folks they laid off. that much is straight obvious

firing jj? baaaaaad move
he's done more for Akai than they do for themselves - the terry shiavo of electronic musical instruments...
By master-ceo Sun May 25, 2008 3:43 am
Real good points you guys. You all know I support JJ 100% and will beat Akai down for him. lol I just thought that email was funny, so I had to make sure you guys were aware of the shit Akai is saying about our brother.

**** a Bug fix! This man made history with the JJ OS. All Akai could do is download his .bin files and be amazed of the level he took an Underdog MPC to and learn.

Nym,
Do you think they can actually add a version of chopshop to the non-graphical 500? That just didn't sound right to me. ???
By dtaa pla muk Sun May 25, 2008 4:10 am
sure they could.
it's gonna be same code from the 5000 adapted, some numeric thing i bet.
and it'll be great, the 500 users will be thrilled. they deserve better support than they have received so far. much like the 2500 and 1000.

"chopshop 2.0" is BIG WORDS, sounds like a big deal
but realize, it's just stereo chopping. the entire "2.0" thing is laughable - like yes, friends, there are in fact 2 channels to most samples from the medium your customers chop from, thanks for catching up to that fact in 2008.
By uptightkid Sun May 25, 2008 6:16 am
I talked to a friend who is a whizz at programming and he says that JJ would have to be an insider (aka ex Akai) to have the knowledge to create the JJ OS.

The other stuff could be BS but I reckon JJ must have some inside knowledge (either personally or through a friend).
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By thedvs01 Sun May 25, 2008 9:09 am
that one rep for Akai UK in the 5000 forum promised to speak on the whole JJ thing but never did

that post sounds like a crock of sh!t to me though
By Rendr Sun May 25, 2008 10:55 am
as if akai would have let jj make an os as dope as jj os1 or 2 for the 1k if he was still working for them(if he did)! They obviously CAN make the unit perform way better than it does with the sh!tty akai os it comes with, my guess is they wanted to save the better features for the 2500 etc to cash in. We are probably better off now that he isn't(if he was) working for akai as there are now no rules on how far he can take the os, it seems he can do what he wants with it now, and is. I doubt very much we would have half as good of an os as the jj os1 or 2 if he was still with akai.
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By kneebone77 Sun May 25, 2008 8:17 pm
And let's, even for a moment pretend that everything in this post about JJ is true.
That still wouldn't negate the fact that this guy is an army of one that added a SH*T LOAD of features and functionality that I don't believe Akai ever intended to, or even thought to add with an OS update.
It's also painfully obvious to me that the things Akai did think of, they left them out on purpose essentially "crippling" a very capable machine for the sake of marketing these other features in they're "Bigger" "Better" models.
When the mpc 1000 was released, it was missing stuff that was in the 2000 and 2000xl. That alone should tell you something.
Akai still hasn't addressed bug problems within they're 1000, 2500 and 4000 OS's, what's the excuse for that?!? And let's not forget the first JJ OS update was and still is FREE!

By the time I was an owner of the mpc 1000 the 2500 had Been Out! If akai wanted to update the OS they had plenty of time, (YEARS!!!). In order to see the truth, all one needs to do is look at the time line of events. It all will become ridiculously clear.
By drunken monkey Sun May 25, 2008 10:39 pm
Sooty_G wrote:
master-ceo wrote:"JJ - JJ (Hayashi) did work for us. He was the software engineer on the MPC1000 and MPC2500. He was the one that introduced all the bugs that those machines originally shipped with. He even broke the MTC on the MPC2500 before he left us so that he could then fix it and then charge customers himself. He stole our code, and charged customers for OS fixes that we would have had him do and released for free. We chose not to take legal action even though we had every right to because it would hurt the customers. He will not be working for us again. We are in process of fixing the existing bugs as well as adding the Chopshop 2.0 feature from the MPC5000."


wow. the smell of bullsh!t is overwhelming!

who are you gonna believe? some anonymous dude with a post count of *1* putting some pixels on a screen, or the fact that JJ has coded 2 OS's with practically weekly updates for years while akai had done exactly zilch?

let's assume everything that guy is saying is true. so you're telling me some company (especially one facing bankruptcy) is NOT gonna sue the guy who STOLE their copywritten code & is making a profit off of it? especially when they are apparently aware of his identity?!

are you also telling me that akai was unable to hire another person (or even 10 other people!) to code updates/bug fixes to it's own OS to compete with JJ?

are you telling me that akai had the resources to develop the mpc 5000 (a huge beast with it's own synth engine for fukcs sake!) yet just couldn't get it together to fix the well known bugs with the 1000 & 2500 OS?

it's the internet. you can never be sure who is who and what is what. but what you CAN do is use your own logic & critical thinking and i gotta say that guys post just doesn't compute.


a company facing bankruptcy would have no desire whatsoever to sue one person (if we assume that JJ is in fact only 1 person).

akai have no reason to compete with JJ in the market of an MPC OS. people are paying for the hardware and the cost that JJ is charging is basically minimal in comparison to the price of the MPC unit.

remember when you are paying for a product you are paying for the R&D also.

JJ has added a lot of features to the MPC1k but the appearence of this OS has also caused a lot of confusion in regards to what actually goes into the development of a product like an MPC.


features are left out of products so that people will have incentive to buy the models that are more "top of the range" in the category.

let's not forget that when the MPC 1k was originally announced it was marketted as a portable MPC solution or an MPC for people who previously could not afford one.

in regards to "bugs" in the original OS you have to take into account how some (and i stress that word) companies go around testing their products. you are dealing with a very small user base of testers who are looking for bugs and features. i have no doubt whatsoever in my mind that if akai wanted to implement features into it's OS that JJ has already done for the 1000 then they could have easily done so.

to me the JJ situation looks like an ex-employee who has access to the source code and therefore has the ability to upgrade and maintain a third party OS.

the ammount of "assumed" knowledge and plain guessing on this forum is pretty ridiculous IMO.

the original MPC1k had some "hardware" problems but this is only to be expected when you look at the actual price of the unit. most companies are staying away from the hardware game as of late and it's becoming more and more apparent that in the VERY near future hardware could become a niche market and for akai to stick to making units like the MPC 500 and 5000 is very applaudable.
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By hiphoppa Mon May 26, 2008 1:41 am
Wow. I hope this doesn't force JJ out from hiding and blow up with the real facts.

I'm willing to say after some of the comments left, that it really doesn't matter what AKAI does from here. They screwed up letting a talented programmer go but are reaping the rewards for it because some have picked up the machine for the first time because of the rumors about turning a small machine into a greater one.....

Makes clear business since....
By fritzifratzi Tue May 27, 2008 1:13 am
I co-sign that. Would not have bought the 1000 without jj os. I give Akai credit for making good hardware and they should just concentrate on that and make the softwares open platform. I think that would increase their sales. I guess that people with a more powerful 500 would still get hooked onto a bigger mpc eventually. JJ's updates beat everything I have ever encountered in terms of service.
By nanoloop Tue May 27, 2008 2:09 am
see what comes out first, an updated version of the akai os, or a new JJ release. i'm glad he no longer works for akai if this is true, no he is free to do what he wants with the mpc's...