Just a maybe but thinking of trading 5000 for Triton??

I'm a new MPC user and love it's features but a lot of it is difficult and confusing. Like trying to make a melody. When I play the meloding when recording it sounds dope because I'm in sync, but when it plays back its all outta wack. The sampling is cool but creating keys and melodies with it isn't too impressive. I messed with a Triton and was BLOWN AWAY! I'm not for certain yet because I need a good sampler, I love the drums its just the melody part. I can never get my pads chopped like that dude Boondoc. Mine will just cut and sound awful even if hitting the pads at the exact count. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.... Thanks guys

It certainly takes time to perfect one's skills on any instrument, and the MPC is no exception. I think a keyboard workstation is certainly useful, but doing beats on a Triton or even M3 canNOT be compared to doing that on an MPC. The Triton should be pretty cheap now so I'd say keep the MPC and work hard on it, and get a Triton (or whatever keyboard) later to accompany our MPC.

UBANKRECORDS wrote:I'm a new MPC user and love it's features but a lot of it is difficult and confusing.

Of course! It's a big machine it does lots .. so does the Triton

Like trying to make a melody.

A melody? Huh? A melody is just a series of notes ... ?

I can never get my pads chopped like that dude Boondoc. Mine will just cut and sound awful even if hitting the pads at the exact count. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong

Oh do you mean chopping up a sample and creating a riff (or "melody" as you call it) out of it? If so well yeah that's the creative bit, that's the hard bit. For every dope chop Boondoc pulls off he probably makes 25 duff ones. You've gotta sift through the garbage to find the treasure my friend. Different machines might help you in the actual chopping but no machine is going to help you find the right thing to chop or the right way to chop it.

When I play the meloding when recording it sounds dope because I'm in sync but when it plays back its all outta wack.

Sounds like you have some kind of quantise on. Turn off quantise and you should get out what you put in.

The sampling is cool but creating keys and melodies with it isn't too impressive. I messed with a Triton and was BLOWN AWAY!

I'm not sure you can really compare the Triton and the 5k? You were blown away by what, the built-in sounds or the sequencing and sampling facilities? ROMplers like the Triton are designed to be impressive so you try them out in a shop and buy them on the spot. They do stuff like cover everything in big reverbs. Soudns great but you couldn't actually use the sound like that in a track, it wouldn't sit well.

I'm not for certain yet because I need a good sampler, I love the drums its just the melody part. I can never get my pads chopped like that dude Boondoc. Mine will just cut and sound awful even if hitting the pads at the exact count. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.... Thanks guys

If you want to do what Boondoc does the Triton 'aint gonna help you! But it'd be a nice addition to the 5k. You might be doing something wrong I don't know. The whole chop sample to pad thing takes two approaches both ending in the same intention. You take a sample and you either chop it into exactly equal parts or you chop it up by transients (drum peaks) or melodic content (notes) and then ... here's the creative bit ... you stick em on the pads and bash the little devils any way you like until you get something interesting. If you aint sounding like Boondoc (or whoever) it's because you just aint good enough yet.

But if you keep working at it ... you will be.

It`s all up to you check out the basics, 4k, 5k whatever it makes no difference mute the sounds to cut each other off. Plus you got to edit your samples tight too. Boon does it on a 1000 with a 5k or 4K and even the triton studio it is the same settings under different names.

Rome wasn`t built in a day.

If you haven't done so already, you should read the manual and spend some time reading threads in the MPC 2500 and 1000 forums. They provide much of the basics to use MPCs.

The Triton is also a sampling workstation that comes with a complete sound set on ROM with the options to install additional expansion ROMs for more sounds. The Triton is a more complete sampler and workstation than the MPC 5000 currently. If the Triton is something that fits your needs make sure that you don't overpay for one. I wouldn't spend more than $1000 on a Triton. You could have actually picked up an MPC 2500 and a Triton for the price you spent on an MPC 5000.

Askia Shaheed wrote:If you haven't done so already, you should read the manual and spend some time reading threads in the MPC 2500 and 1000 forums. They provide much of the basics to use MPCs.

The Triton is also a sampling workstation that comes with a complete sound set on ROM with the options to install additional expansion ROMs for more sounds. The Triton is a more complete sampler and workstation than the MPC 5000 currently. If the Triton is something that fits your needs make sure that you don't overpay for one. I wouldn't spend more than $1000 on a Triton. You could have actually picked up an MPC 2500 and a Triton for the price you spent on an MPC 5000.

Yup co-sign.

So just to ask a general question, What about the Triton exactly blew you away? They even have soft synths or Reason for that matter that can do everything the triton can for way less to even use with your MPC 5000, 2500, 1000, 500, 4000, 3000, 2000(XL), 60, Roger Linn, or whatever. But I also understand if you would rather have a hardware workstation.

Everyone uses different things to produce on, and the MPC isnt everyones "niche," so if its not for you, go get what will make you happy.

by the way, are you asking for help as well, because at the end of the paragraph, you stated "I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.... Thanks guys"?

Wow, you guys had some good answers. Yall are probably right I need to learn more about chopping. I don't see a quantize on the 5000 so if it is on I don't know it. Don't get me wrong I've already made 4 DOPE beats with the 5000. I'm just trying to work on the creative chopping. When I try to set to sliced samples I can't ever adjust the regions. I can mess with region 1 but after that I can't start region 2 any further or earlier.... Yes I'm a MPC newb. I've been producing for years using Cakewalk, Acid, Reason, and many MIDI controllers and keyboards. The Tritons sound and feel is what blew me away. The things you can do on it are crazy. I'm already decided not to trade the 5000. I was just frustrated because I was getting really frustrated with chopping. I had the PERFECT sample to slice and I couldn't get it right and it pissed me off.

Thanks guys

lmao @ "like boondoc"


not that anything he does is impressive, cause its not....


but for the record (and im not trying to sound insulting), but knowing the machinery, and techniques...even inside out, doesn't give talent.

If you want to play chops "Like Boondoc" all you have to do is loop the sample perfectly and chop it ino 16 pieces.

^^^^^^^

exactly.

ever since pete rock dropped

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaCuDweLcc


everyone does exactly that.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11515

Basics first then buy new gear IF you need it.

BxJaze wrote:^^^^^^^

exactly.

ever since pete rock dropped

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaCuDweLcc


everyone does exactly that.

You guys rock. Creativity circles through my brain and being able to put the samples in order like this will allow me to take what up there and put it on to the MPC.

Thanks a ton

I've had more practice since I posted this and have decided to keep the beast(MPC 5k).

I got a few beats I did on the 5k up. Still can tell I need practice but I know once I learn it, there will be no end to my creation.

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