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By Prophit124 Sat May 31, 2008 10:41 am
has anyone here actually gotten cleared samples? how does this work besides contact and verbal agreement? specifically via E-Mailing back and forth...do you go threw copywrite.gov or what? thanks
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By Prophit124 Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:36 pm
alright dif question then since no1 can answer that one....how do u find who has the licensing? sounds simple enough to look at the record lable but i recently contacted ace which was the label and they got back saying sony has the licensing
By 4dahaterz Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:17 pm
Prophit124 wrote:has anyone here actually gotten cleared samples? how does this work besides contact and verbal agreement? specifically via E-Mailing back and forth...do you go threw copywrite.gov or what? thanks


I havent gotten a sample cleared cause i havent had a need to, but i got a friend that just had a lot of samples cleared on a song thru the label that he sold the song thru, but that was a thru the Major Label.

Sample Clearance is usually left up to the Label, But you as a producer should definitely keep a record of where samples in your song came from so you can advise them of that. I think, im not sure, but if you dont advise them on about the samples in the song, any negative actions about the production that you didnt fore warn them about can be brought back to you and not the label or the artist(or the artist can just sue you label in return for the expenses occurred in the lawsuit or problems stimulating from the song).
By 4dahaterz Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:04 pm
Again, maybe so... i havent had to get a sample cleared cause i havent sold a track with a sample(unless it was a one shot drum)..... I have only sold tracks with my own ideas and melodies created.
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By noramoss Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:23 pm
has anyone here actually gotten cleared samples? how does this work besides contact and verbal agreement? specifically via E-Mailing back and forth...do you go threw copywrite.gov or what? thanks

alright dif question then since no1 can answer that one....how do u find who has the licensing? sounds simple enough to look at the record lable but i recently contacted ace which was the label and they got back saying sony has the licensing


dude! you're on the internet! the information highway to anything you can think of! all you have to do is go in your search engine and type in "sample laws" and a bunch of leads and links will come up that will tell you what you need to know. If you're new to the net, the i guess imma have to forgive you, but I'm not gonna sit here and type out any sample laws to you. i'd advise you to keep a record of every sample you use, even if it's one note. Because if a label finds out it is what you didn't tell them it was, you're gonna get sued by whomever owns the publishing and by the label you sold the sample to, and the artist you sold the sample to. You don't have to worry about clearing your samples, that's what the label you're selling the track to has to be responsible for. If you sit there and go clear your samples.. well try clearing a beatles sample or elvis if you got hundreds of thousands to spare... and then not be able to sell the track.. now that would be funny as hell. As long as there are no royalties for a track, then you don't have to worry about what you sample.. just keep a record of it.. eg: if you take a one shot highhat from the uknown artist "Timmy Two Teeth" and his unknown song "shake and bake chicken".. u better keep a note of it or the label probably won't even buy the track. U know labels suck! If I hear a hot sample that hasn't been used, I'd love to use it. Even though I think these older artist should get paid for their past works if we use them, they seem to forget that if it wasn't for rap music sampling that no one would even remember who they were anymore. As tight as james browns' music was, if rap producers didn't sample his songs, he would have made his last dollar in nineteen seventy something...lmaooo.. true story! And this goes for a lot of these people who are back on tour just because of producers like puffy who sample everything .... here are some links to sample stuff.


http://www.superswell.com/samplelaw/main.html

http://www.princeton.edu/~artspol/studentpap/undergrad%20thesis1%20JLind.pdf

http://www.alexandermagazine.com/business/articles/courtsmp.htm
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By 7 1 4 Beats Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:30 pm
You don't have to clear anything unless you plan on playing the shiet on the radio or it is some big name artist. Look at Madlib straight loops and no clearing.
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By noramoss Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:44 am
7 1 4 Beats wrote:You don't have to clear anything unless you plan on playing the shiet on the radio or it is some big name artist. Look at Madlib straight loops and no clearing.


u don't have to clear it to get played on the radio.. the radio has the right to play anything under the ffc, who the roylaties go to is a whole other story. if you're getting the mechanical royalties from it playing on the radio and didn't clear the sample, the owner of the publishing is coming after you for his/her royalties...
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By getcunted Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:32 pm
Prophit124 wrote:has anyone here actually gotten cleared samples? how does this work besides contact and verbal agreement? specifically via E-Mailing back and forth...do you go threw copywrite.gov or what? thanks


DMG are quite well know,

http://www.dmgclearances.com/Services.html
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By 7 1 4 Beats Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:37 pm
noramoss wrote:
7 1 4 Beats wrote:You don't have to clear anything unless you plan on playing the shiet on the radio or it is some big name artist. Look at Madlib straight loops and no clearing.


u don't have to clear it to get played on the radio.. the radio has the right to play anything under the ffc, who the roylaties go to is a whole other story. if you're getting the mechanical royalties from it playing on the radio and didn't clear the sample, the owner of the publishing is coming after you for his/her royalties...



Yes that is true! I just went through this shiet with my crew getting our track played on the radio I had give the sample name & album and all that.