MPC2500 OS Update soon...

this doesnt really rile me up. i don't really care if they kill off the 25k. i love mine either way

EducatedHands wrote:this doesnt really rile me up. i don't really care if they kill off the 25k. i love mine either way

I agree.

Me Too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been very fortunate and have not had any problems what so ever with mine!

If what sovereign says is true, then there will probably be a 2500XL or just plain and simple the 5k

I mean would it be any surprise? nuAkai has really dropped the ball the past 5 years anyway

Sovereign wrote:The gap between the 5k and the 1k is the exact same gap that existed between the 2500 and 1k.

Ahhhh....so the 5000 is essentially a 2500? Now that makes sense to me...

EducatedHands wrote:this doesnt really rile me up. i don't really care if they kill off the 25k. i love mine either way

+1

_Stilo_ wrote:
Ahhhh....so the 5000 is essentially a 2500? Now that makes sense to me...

Well it's not quite that simple but it fills the position of the 2500 while adding some new features and functionality but retained the relative price point.
The Price drop on the 2500 is to help them move the remaining units they are rolling off the line or that are already in inventory.
The idea of a 2500xl or a lite version seems cool but it would be hard to strip features from the 5k without hurting overall sales.
The 1k on the other hand has 2 points to attack in the Akai OS.
1. they could give it the full 2500 feature set, that along with the new black pads would make the 1k a bargain
2. add some of the newer 5k features to it and make it a mini 5k with less hardware and reduced features

Unlike adding to the 2500 this would have a lesser affect on the 5k sales.

That-1-DJ wrote:Me Too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been very fortunate and have not had any problems what so ever with mine!

Same here. I am fortunate. Knock on wood.

Sovereign wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:
Ahhhh....so the 5000 is essentially a 2500? Now that makes sense to me...

Well it's not quite that simple but it fills the position of the 2500 while adding some new features and functionality but retained the relative price point.
The Price drop on the 2500 is to help them move the remaining units they are rolling off the line or that are already in inventory.
The idea of a 2500xl or a lite version seems cool but it would be hard to strip features from the 5k without hurting overall sales.
The 1k on the other hand has 2 points to attack in the Akai OS.
1. they could give it the full 2500 feature set, that along with the new black pads would make the 1k a bargain
2. add some of the newer 5k features to it and make it a mini 5k with less hardware and reduced features

Unlike adding to the 2500 this would have a lesser affect on the 5k sales.

I'm not with you here. It's not the same price point at all, being $1000 above the original 2500 price.

If they sort out one of the new models at all, in my opinion it should be the 1000, which was a major catastrophe for Akai's reputation. And it is closer to the 500 (or now the 2500 pricewise), than the 2500 is to the 5000.

Anyway, I doubt that would happen seeing that everybody and their momma want to have one. We'll see.

_Stilo_ wrote:
I'm not with you here. It's not the same price point at all, being $1000 above the original 2500 price.

If they sort out one of the new models at all, in my opinion it should be the 1000, which was a major catastrophe for Akai's reputation. And it is closer to the 500 (or now the 2500 pricewise), than the 2500 is to the 5000.

Anyway, I doubt that would happen seeing that everybody and their momma want to have one. We'll see.

Don't know what numbers you are using but the selling price of the 5k is only a few hundred dollars different from what the 2500 selling price was.
With it's added hardware and features you could pretty much say it's actually less for all practical purposes.

You can't improve the 2500 without it affecting the 5k market.
The 500 has a niche, the 1k has a niche the 2500 no longer has one it was taken by the 5k.
If you can remeber when the 2500 was released Akai called it their new flagship and the best MPC ever.
People argued that the 4k hadn't been discontinued at that time but later found out it was true.
We are again at that point the 5k is the new flagship and the 2500 is going away.
Just wait and see

Sovereign wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:
I'm not with you here. It's not the same price point at all, being $1000 above the original 2500 price.

If they sort out one of the new models at all, in my opinion it should be the 1000, which was a major catastrophe for Akai's reputation. And it is closer to the 500 (or now the 2500 pricewise), than the 2500 is to the 5000.

Anyway, I doubt that would happen seeing that everybody and their momma want to have one. We'll see.

Don't know what numbers you are using but the selling price of the 5k is only a few hundred dollars different from what the 2500 selling price was.
With it's added hardware and features you could pretty much say it's actually less for all practical purposes.

You can't improve the 2500 without it affecting the 5k market.
The 500 has a niche, the 1k has a niche the 2500 no longer has one it was taken by the 5k.
If you can remeber when the 2500 was released Akai called it their new flagship and the best MPC ever.
People argued that the 4k hadn't been discontinued at that time but later found out it was true.
We are again at that point the 5k is the new flagship and the 2500 is going away.
Just wait and see

i agree with that. the 2500 is like a 2000xl as far as the model levels go. it'll age like fine wine

thats part of the reason i copped the 2500LE. cause i knew in the future future when people see it it'll just be like "oooooo ahhh" more so than now.

Thank God That the 2500le does not look anything like the 2000xlSE's cause I highly doubt that anybody will ever ooooooh n aaahhhhh over those 3 models.

Sovereign wrote:Don't know what numbers you are using but the selling price of the 5k is only a few hundred dollars different from what the 2500 selling price was.

$3000 for the 5000 vs. $2000 for the 2500 when they were introduced? Ok, I admit with the current dollar drop the numbers are not really comparable anymore.

Sovereign wrote:You can't improve the 2500 without it affecting the 5k market.
The 500 has a niche, the 1k has a niche the 2500 no longer has one it was taken by the 5k.
If you can remeber when the 2500 was released Akai called it their new flagship and the best MPC ever.
People argued that the 4k hadn't been discontinued at that time but later found out it was true.
We are again at that point the 5k is the new flagship and the 2500 is going away.

We disagree.

The 2500 was a replacement for the 2000XL just like the 5000 is for the 4000. The 1000 was just a marketing move to get more people into the market that can barely afford a few hundred dollars for an MPC. Obviously successful despite the crappy quality of the 1000. But I don't see why they would build up this new line of models, all in the same design, just to rip it apart again after 3 years.

That-1-DJ wrote:Thank God That the 2500le does not look anything like the 2000xlSE's cause I highly doubt that anybody will ever ooooooh n aaahhhhh over those 3 models.

Ok, it's arguable how good the 2500LE really looks...but don't ask how many people are probably behind the 2000XLSE3 now since Pete Rock used it in that Future Music Magazine video

_Stilo_ wrote:

That-1-DJ wrote:Thank God That the 2500le does not look anything like the 2000xlSE's cause I highly doubt that anybody will ever ooooooh n aaahhhhh over those 3 models.

Ok, it's arguable how good the 2500LE really looks...but don't ask how many people are probably behind the 2000XLSE3 now since Pete Rock used it in that Future Music Magazine video

Now that one (the Silver/black) I would own that one, but the other two are HIDIOUS, Who ever approved those designs probably got fired!