Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By Tohtruck Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:25 pm
I would still like to see a double resolutions sequencer mode for JJ OS2. Basically, it would be the "doubling the tempo" trick people use in order to increase the resolution of the sequencer.

For the most part it seems that all that would have to be done is changing what the numbers display when in double resolution mode. Likewise the timing correct values would have to change as well so 1/4note quantize would become 1/8note quantize 1/16note quantize would become 1/32note quantize etc.

I think this would make for a little more flexibility in terms of swinging notes and shifting notes since we would now be able to shift notes by 192ppqn resolution instead of 96ppqn resolution and not get confused with what the numbers read and what they actually mean.

I'm no programmer but it seems as though it would be do-able considering all the other great features JJ has already implemented in OS1 and OS2.
By Sovereign Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:48 pm
Tohtruck wrote:I would still like to see a double resolutions sequencer mode for JJ OS2. Basically, it would be the "doubling the tempo" trick people use in order to increase the resolution of the sequencer.



So from JJ point of view how hard does he think it is for you to change the 90 to 180?
Looking at the unforseen problems it could cause with the sequencer probabaly something to pass on.
Increased Reso would be nice but not by manipulating the sequence.
By dtaa pla muk Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:00 pm
^ yeah, i've been using doubletime resolution for years now, from MPC to DAW, it's very easy and there's nothing you can't achieve that you can with "normal" resolution...getting used to the doubled note/bar count isn't that bad at all.
By Sovereign Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:28 pm
verb wrote:Question is could this be done?, If so why not implement it


It wouldn't be higher reso it would be sequence manipulation, writing this in would affect some other function in a negative way.
With that in mind doubling the tempo yourself is the best solution and causes you no real problem.
By Tohtruck Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:08 am
Well I just figured that all JJ would have to do is change what the numbers display. As I said, I'm no programmer so I have no idea how easy or difficult it would be for JJ to implement or if it would cause any unforeseen problems.

It just seemed as though JJ put so many new things into the 2500 that a hypothetical double tempo mode might be easy to implement since it would probably just involve change what the numbers read.

Since it seems as though I'm in the minority of people who would like to see this feature I'll say no more.
By Sovereign Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:20 pm
Just seems incredibly lazy. :wink: :lol:
Changing your tempo from 80BPM to 160BPM is no effort at all.
You are basically asking JJ to program and test this for something as simple as that.
It's a little more than just telling it to show a different number
Maybe if you could give a realistic reason why setting your tempo as needed is such a problem then maybe JJ could see the need.

As Nym said making the adjustment in your work habits of using double tempo is easy enough to do.
By Tohtruck Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:58 pm
I guess it is just me being lazy. I've only just started experimenting with double resolution, so sometimes I get confused when adjusting things like quantize settings adding bars and nudging things in step edit or grid edit (especially when trying to work and tweak things really fast).

I won't complain if such a feature shows up.
By verb Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:46 pm
Sovereign wrote:Just seems incredibly lazy. :wink: :lol:
Changing your tempo from 80BPM to 160BPM is no effort at all.
You are basically asking JJ to program and test this for something as simple as that.
It's a little more than just telling it to show a different number
Maybe if you could give a realistic reason why setting your tempo as needed is such a problem then maybe JJ could see the need.

As Nym said making the adjustment in your work habits of using double tempo is easy enough to do.


Hey i'm just saying it would be really neat, And if done right without sacrificing bugs I wouldn't turn it down
either
By Sovereign Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:26 pm
Until you realize JJ could have put that time into something neat or that you can't already do.

Just food for thought;
a long time ago on an OS far far away JJ made some incredible changes and we thought it was all he was going to do.
It was pretty impressive and we asked for more, he gave us more and slipped in some things we never asked for.
A couple of times we tried to get things resolved and had issues because of the communication barrier but even then JJ tried to work with you.
The thing you have to look at now is to let JJ focus on refining OS2 and not waste his time asking for something wasteful.
OS2 has some definite points he is attacking and will hopefully get to the next level.
That my friend is where you need JJ working not on something like doubling the tempo.
As you say it would be ok it he did but there are more important task at hand.