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By Musikal Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:46 pm
Hello,

Nothing urgent but I wanted to ask you guys for advice because even though I am very happy so far with my MPC2500, my Motif rack es and my numerous samples compilation (including a few pro quality royaltee free CD's & DVD's), I am struggleling to find decent bass samples.
My main music type is rap...

I am after single note samples (one shot), is there any CD that you guys would recommend for bass ?

I got my Motif rack es quite recently so I haven't got to the various effects and special options yet, but I am really deceived when it comes to bass voices.
Are there any advices that you guys would have regarding the Motif rack es ?

Thank you.
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By Lampdog Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:20 pm
The motif is a REALLY big arsenal, get skilled up enough to create patches to your liking.
By Musikal Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:45 pm
Lampdog wrote:The motif is a REALLY big arsenal, get skilled up enough to create patches to your liking.

Thanks for replying. :wink:
Could you please give me some examples ?

I think that this situation might be like the MPC2500's manual where some important/useful instructions and tips are not mentionned but fortunately there is the "Beat Making on the MPC2500" which was of great help to me...

It is indeed a big arsenal, I am happy with it and there are a lot of voices that I haven't gone through yet but when it comes to bass, so far it is a disapointment to me.

To tell you the truth, I have even considered buying a bass guitar, but I would need to save up first.
Maybe you (or anyone whiling to help) could give me some direction with my Motif rack...

Take care man.
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By Lampdog Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:07 pm
I don't have a motif rack.

My point was to create patches and tweaked programs from the "default" sounds and maybe even combined with some samples into new programs to your liking.

Manuals, are for the basics of a machine not advanced tips, that's where you and your imagination kick in once, you've learned the basics of your machine, you use those functions you've learned about and apply them to you vision and create what you want.

The beat making tutorials I'm guessing are jump start books on advanced techniques. Like I said manuals go over the machines actual functions, not creative tips.

So with that, combine those programs, tweak in some sampled basses and get busy. :D
By Musikal Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:07 pm
Thank you for taking the time to reply, even though my "little" problem is not sorted yet I appreciate the advice.

Guys if you ever come across a bass single note (one shot) CD/DVD then let me know! :wink:
By Musikal Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:56 am
Copper_Tony wrote:if your looking for some single bass hits try bebop jazz records or cds. bebop was all about improvisation and a lot of the songs have bass solos and even drum solos. i hope this helps

Hi,
I went to the website http://www.thebebopshop.com
but I didn't see any sample CD's not even after using the search option...

Thanks anyway. :wink:
By beach_break Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:39 am
with the motif, you can make very good bass sounds.
think about what you're after with a bass sound, and work towards it - think about the type of attack and decay you want etc. just don't fart-arse around twisting knobs and see what happens.

also, don't judge a bass sound on how it sounds in isolation. bass and kick work together.

not to dissuade you from buying a bass guitar - nice idea. but a bass guitar doesn't automatically just make a great bass sound. just like with the motif, you'll have to work to get the sound you want. string type, fingering technique, amp, mic type and placement, etc. will all dramatically effect your sound.
By Musikal Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:58 pm
Hi beach_break,

Bear in mind that I've got the Motif Rack (ES), I'm only writting that because it seems that you might think that I have the actuall Motif keyboard (you mentionned knobs)...

Well I appreciate your advice but your answer is similar to Lampdog, really it would help to have an example of two.

Maybe my expectations were too high, I repeat that I am very happy the the Motif Rack Es, it's just that I'm deceived regarding the bass voices.
I also think that there is no such thing as a "perfect" hardware that's why I am whilling to get hold of some bass samples CD (or eventually a guitar when I can afford it).

Finally I want to thank you guys because you take the time to reply and you are not arrogant which is great communication. :wink:

But since nobody has recommended any bass samples CD yet, I am curious; what do you guys use for bass ?
By beach_break Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:17 am
as an example. the track i'm working on at the moment uses a preset for bass - the "perc organ" patch from yamaha digital fm synths (dx7, dx100 etc). i have the tx81z.

this is a classic bass sound used in late 80s, early 90 new jersey-styled house. not very imaginative.
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By Lampdog Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:02 am
Musikal wrote:what do you guys use for bass ?


Filtered basslines from samples every on the net, sometimes
vinyl (I don't have tt's/vinyl but I rcv vinyl samples
from friends everywhere).

Sine/triangle/sawtooth waveforms filtered and tweaked (I find it relaxing to
just play with and tweak raw waveforms in sound forge/vegas).

Default and/or tweaked triton extreme patches.
LOTS of my own Combined (combi's) Triton extreme patches.

Drumsynth is good for more than just drums despite it's name.
http://www.sonicspot.com/drumsynth/drumsynth.html

IMO, if you can't find what you want, start tweaking and make your own 8)

:D Deceived? Get creative/imaginative :D