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By Guero134 Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:58 am
NOOB QUESTION (I got my mpc a day ago):

I was sampling Tom Brock's 'The Love We Share Is The Greatest' on to my mpc 1000 because that is the sample Toomp (ATL 4 life) used to make the beat for the song Say Hello off of Jay-Z's American Gangster and I wanted to mess around with it because I have just gotten my mpc and I thought that it would be a fun sample to mess with.

So I recorded and chopped it into 16 pieces but when I tried to create the program it said I have insufficient memory. Now I am not such a Noob that I dont know what that would mean, my question is this, Does this mean that I need to expend my measly 16mb of ram or do I need a larger CF card? I would think it means that I need to expand my ram, but I was wondering maybe my 128mb CF card is too small (I know, I am going to get a bigger one). So what I am asking is do I have an insufficient amount of ram or a tiny CF card. I am planning to get 128mb of ram and a 2.0GB CF card. I am asking this because I dont know how the mpc works when it comes to saving shit, I assumed that everything you did would get stored in the ram and once you decide to save it the the mpc would then write to the CF card but maybe it isnt like that. I know you guys can help me out. I know I could have researched and then found the answer somewhere but that is time consuming and the people on this forum seem nice enough to tolerate this dumb question, and also I hate reading manuals.
Thanks.
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By Lampdog Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:00 am
Guero134 wrote:Now I am not such a Noob that I dont know what that would mean


Guero134 wrote:I would think it means that I need to expand my ram








It would also mean, be smart when sampling, don't sample the whole song, just parts, your sample choice
needs to be more focused, organized and specific. Sample ONLY the parts that you need and nothing extra that you are not actually using.

You can actually fit ALOT of MEANINGFUL samples in 16mb, your being too frivolous with your sample time.
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By m:t:c Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:57 pm
Guero134 wrote:... and also I hate reading manuals.



Why do people hate that?! It's the best way to educate yourself about your gear. If you have problems falling asleep at night, that'll help and it's not wasted time either.... :wink:
By Guero134 Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:13 pm
Im not an idiot I only sampled about 15 seconds of the song, I didnt sample the whole thing. I also have been reading the manual, which by the way is written for the old OS and I have the 2.11, I wasn't exectly serious about the manual thing, I have been reading it, its just not that helpful with what I need to know.
By Carnage Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:19 pm
Get some more RAM, I just won some for £6 on ebay.

Check the RAM thread with the sticky on it.

Its not expensive and you'll prob end up buying it the future anyway.

Im yet to receive mine but I had the same problem with "Insufficient Memory" the day I bought mine (last week) and started samping into it. So for now I studying the "beat making on the MPC1000" ebook (which is great and well worth the money)

Also its not gonna hurt to have a bigger card but I opted for a hard drive.
Its up to you.....
By lazyE Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:33 pm
m:t:c wrote:
Guero134 wrote:... and also I hate reading manuals.



Why do people hate that?! It's the best way to educate yourself about your gear. If you have problems falling asleep at night, that'll help and it's not wasted time either.... :wink:



would you buy a car and not learn to drive?
would you spend thousands on building a swimming pool in your garden if u didn`t like water and can`t swim?
would you work in a butchers if u hate meat?

why the **** would you buy a piece of music production material and not learn how to use it!!!!!!!!

yeah it takes time, but the manual`s for the mpc and also the online mpc tutor guides you can get are the best!!

just thank yourself lucky you don`t have any of the roland vs studio`s to learn!!! the manuals for those are too much!!!

pull ya finger owt mate and `READ YA MANUAL` or just try figure it out yourself, but you`ll get no respect or anywhere with your production if u don`t learn the basics.

best o luck friend

peace,
E
By Guero134 Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:31 pm
Nobody is is understanding what I am saying, and nobody answered my question. What I meant by saying that I hate reading manuals is that I would rather spend my time making music on my mpc than reading countless manuals and watching lots of YouTube tutorials. I am reading my manuals and watching the videos and I know the basics, its just that I would rather spend my time actually on the mpc making music instead of spending countless hours reading and watching videos. Why does everybody think that because I dont want to read the manuals that I'm not going to do it?

People need to stop being dicks, especially if you aren't going to answer the fu*king question, I warned you that it was a noob question, give me a break.
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By Lampdog Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:03 am
15 seconds is ALOT of audio. Most of it is prolly uneeded.

Learn how much RAM you have in your machine.

RAM equals SAMPLE TIME.
MEDIA equals STORAGE.

Manual covers the basics, don't be confused and think advanced techniques will be in the manual.

Don't mismanage your RAM and place uneeded audio into it. Chop down to what you specifically need and purge the rest.


Bottom line is to manage your RAM if your not working with BIG RAM. What is BIG RAM, it's an animal..
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By Lampdog Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:19 am
learn how to manage your ram then.
By Guero134 Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:27 am
I think I read somewhere that 16mb of RAM can sample up to 136 seconds, if I can't get 15 seconds then naturally I am going to assume that something is wrong.
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By Lampdog Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:12 am
Is the ram bad?

Is it seated correctly?

Maybe you have something autoloading and already have other samples filling up your ram.
By _Stilo_ Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:30 pm
Guero134 wrote:I think I read somewhere that 16mb of RAM can sample up to 136 seconds, if I can't get 15 seconds then naturally I am going to assume that something is wrong.

If that's the only thing you have in memory, yes. Like Lampdog said, check how much RAM you really have free in the lower right corner of the Load screen.