Sapmler as like lo-fi filter

Hello to all,, I'm thinking about buying 4th sampler. I have AKAI 2500, Emu EIV, Emu ESI-2000. But I need sound as like,, for example Primo,, or Black Milk, i like that sound.
I'm thinking about ASR-10 (mostli cuz it used in a hip-hop early time), or old roland (for example S-550), or Akai MPC60 or 3000, maybe S900-950, maybe Emu SP-1200. What do you suggest me?

depends on your bankroll i think

Akwa wrote:Hello to all,, I'm thinking about buying 4th sampler. I have AKAI 2500, Emu EIV, Emu ESI-2000. But I need sound as like,, for example Primo,, or Black Milk, i like that sound.
I'm thinking about ASR-10 (mostli cuz it used in a hip-hop early time), or old roland (for example S-550), or Akai MPC60 or 3000, maybe S900-950, maybe Emu SP-1200. What do you suggest me?

Why buy a new sampler? Sample a dusty old record into the 2500 and do what you wanna do. You got more than you need allready.

Ok I got it
But why many peoples here give their mind to mpc60 and 3000?
is it tradition, respect to roots or something else?

I'm suggesting that you keep rockin what you got. try speeding record up before you sample, then pitch it back down to the original speed with your sampler, filter stuff, sample just the vinyl crackle, experiment!
just so you know, Preemo uses an MPC 60 & s-950. Both are 12-bit samplers. Black milk uses an MPC 2000xl which is similar in sound to your MPC 2500 and is a 16-bit samplers. All of the samplers you mentioned are cool but I think you can carve out your sound without them, or at least come close.

12-bit
Akai MPC 60
Akai s-900
Akai s-950
E-mu SP-12/SP-1200
Roland S-330/S-550

16-bit
Akai MPC 3000
Akai MPC 2500
E-mu EIV
E-mu ESI-2000
Ensoniq ASR-10

If you still can't shake the urge to buy a Lo-Fi sampler, (12-bit) then PM me I got a Emax mkI rack for sale pretty reasonably priced. It's said to sound similar to the E-mu SP-1200. Link below if you wanna check it out...

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Akwa wrote:Ok I got it
But why many peoples here give their mind to mpc60 and 3000?
is it tradition, respect to roots or something else?

There are so many "reason", tangible or not why people choose specific samplers that the only real answer I could give you is: Personal Preference!

I red that Primo uses MPC60 for the sequencing only,, maybe it is wrong opinion

I red that Primo uses MPC60 for the sequencing only,, maybe it is wrong opinion

Interesting ting. when I compared sounding of my old '94 Emu EIV and 2500 i saw that 2500 add some "mathematic" color to the sound and leave attack from samples, for example snares and sinusoidal sub bass. Emu with unplugged filters play samples naturally

You should check this thread out...

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=64599

Thanks, but I've checked it yet

If you would take the time to learn how to use the filters on either the ESI or E4 you wouldn't even need to make this post.
You can get all the 12 bit goodness in the world from those filters.

I know how to use it)))

Akwa wrote:I know how to use it)))

I seriously doubt that.
If you were up on the E4 filters you would be killing them and not even be looking to get a 12-bit machine to fight with.

Then again you mentioned BlackMilk who gets his sound from filtering and sampling techniques instead of using 12-bit machines.

That should tell you right there.

Thank you

Look at it from a more open point of view.
12-bit samplers can give you instant 12-bit sound (of some sort) but have a very old limited type of workflow.
Can get the job done but may not be the way you are comfortable working.
More modern gear requires you understand the sound you are after so you can tweak it to that sound but offer a very functional and highly productive workflow.

It comes down to the choice of which of those aspects makes you more productive and gets the job done.

Gear should work for you not the other way around.