Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By legend215 Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:22 am
What up NYM? Question for ya. Would it be possible to be able to actually pitch a CD before/during recording? I go back 20 years producing wise and have always hated sampling off of CD's but I get handed so many "rare" groups and songs on CD now that you can't find on vinyl that I'm having to rethink my thinking ???

The reason I'm wanting to know if this can be included on a future update is basically to emulate a turntable. You'll be able to pitch up or down with the Q-Link slider as you audition songs and record it for trimming and looping/chopping the same as a vinyl sample.

Another idea along the same lines is being able to also use the Q-Link Faders for filters (left one hi, right on lo or whatever) For me at least both of these would be over the top and make things hella efficient

Hope that ain't to far out there for you man
peace
Last edited by legend215 on Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
By dtaa pla muk Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:17 am
before i attempt to answer your question i have to recommend the "private message" function when you have a question specifically for one person. however, i'm sure other members definitely have their own answers to this question that may be better than what i can tell you - time will tell. on a daily basis i am faced with my own shortsightedness as other users post their own solutions to various problems.

as far as "pre" pitching an incoming sample: currently the only way to do that would be a somewhat destructive pitching solution using the realtime pitch shifting featured in the jjos's. to be honest, i don't find myself using this feature because to me, when i find a sample, i take it into my mpc AS IS from the source material and then pitch it up/down/all around using the MPC itself, either in TRIM mode or in PGM mode.

pitching up or down in realtime is a form of TIMESTRETCHING, which in this case would be a destructive audio effect that forces a sample to follow a non-native rule of pitch. this inevitably results in a degradation of the audio signal, which leads to a lower quality sample.

regarding the filters: again, this is something best done AFTER sampling the source material.

my recommendation is to input the sample DRY, as is, off the CD. once it's on your sampler, chop it up as/if necessary and apply pitching/filters using pgm mode from there. the goal is often to have the sample coming into the mpc as it was in the original context, ie NOT applying any destructive effect, so that you can always revert back to the original if you decide later that you made a bad move with your pitching/filters etc.

sample DRY, and then apply the different utilities provided - you'll find that's the way the OS was intended to be used.
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By Lampdog Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:34 am
Nym wrote:before i attempt to answer your question i have to recommend the "private message" function when you have a question specifically for one person. however, i'm sure other members definitely have their own answers to this question that may be better than what i can tell you - time will tell.


And for that reason, I will not lock it. I was going to.





@ legend215, use pm's when asking one person.
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By BIG LARRY Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:52 am
The pitch on turntables changes the speed at which the record turns. Obviously CD's are differant.
Nym is a MPC beast no doubt & I enjoy his videos, but I would think you would be happiest using a CD player that emulates a table. You know w/ the slider & "scratch" wheel.
Of course these tables can be costly for a good 1 & still while close are NOT a 12.
CPU can pitch change good, but you sound like you want on the fly & not editing a sound post capture.