Hard Hitting Snare

you could always try the old...

pitched up clean kick layered with white noise trick...

mess with amplitude envelope decay...

apply filters and mess with attack/decay settings on those too.

u dont actually HAVE to layer using the PAD layers , that sometimes only limits u to to using the filters on that pad , what I do more often than not is run each sample on their own individual pads and then give them their own filters

take any snare hit, layer it 3x with same sample, tune each layer to a different pitch, set up effects with bit grunger on 1 linked to reverb on 2. Tweak #1 till it's a bit nasty sounding, and bring 2 up to where you have a shadow, then resample. Should be hot hits then. You can comprees after if need be

I like it when my snares kick the speakers as hard as my kicks.

roxstar wrote:To all of you that always think the answer is with additional hardware, if you can't get your drums to smack with a plain MPC2000 with no effects, 8 outs, or any of that other stuff, then this music schyt ain't for you.

thats just plain wrong....the 2000 sounds like $hit....

dry samples in and out lack a huge amount of high end and sound especially dull and boxy.

the secret is good sample selection + layering + EQ + Compression ( allthough parallel compression) + reverb + overdrive + good preamp. (likve the focusrite VST Amp...it sounds so dope on drumz)....

"thats just plain wrong....the 2000 sounds like $hit...."

Listen to Waajeed's first cd then.
The MPC2000 only sounds as bad as the user that operates it.

roxstar wrote:The MPC2000 only sounds as bad as the user that operates it.

hahahahaha

walmart has got some ears for sale 2 for 1.....u better hurry

Your the first person I've ever heard that said the MPC2000 sounds bad. The 5000 sounds just like the 2500, the 2500 sounds just like the 1000, the 1000 sounds just like the 2000XL, and the XL sounds juts like the 2000, and the 2000 is more accurate than the 3000 and the 60s'. Not taking away from the "dirt and warmth" that the older MPC's have, but the 60/3000 are the only MPC's that sound different. The 4000 doesn't sound much different from the 2000 unless your REALLY analyzing and comparing sounds. Basically, all these machines sound the same when a song is playing, and no one is studying a wave form to figure out what machine made a beat.
Give them ears back to walmart and buy some sense.

sample into an asr x then an mpc2000 or greater

the difference is far from subtle

roxstar wrote:Your the first person I've ever heard that said the MPC2000 sounds bad. The 5000 sounds just like the 2500, the 2500 sounds just like the 1000, the 1000 sounds just like the 2000XL, and the XL sounds juts like the 2000, and the 2000 is more accurate than the 3000 and the 60s'. Not taking away from the "dirt and warmth" that the older MPC's have, but the 60/3000 are the only MPC's that sound different. The 4000 doesn't sound much different from the 2000 unless your REALLY analyzing and comparing sounds. Basically, all these machines sound the same when a song is playing, and no one is studying a wave form to figure out what machine made a beat.
Give them ears back to walmart and buy some sense.

The MPC 2000 is thin as hell. Surprised you have'nt heard that before. It is very Metallic sounding. Laying is something the new guys do to over compensate the Thin sound on the newer machines (MPC 2000 & 2000xl). Get yourself a 3000 or any old Akai S Series sampler and get your drums knocking without the layering bullshit. One Kick, One Snare. Done

dont forget playin around with the pitch and the tones as you layer aswell

djdynasty wrote:

roxstar wrote:Your the first person I've ever heard that said the MPC2000 sounds bad. The 5000 sounds just like the 2500, the 2500 sounds just like the 1000, the 1000 sounds just like the 2000XL, and the XL sounds juts like the 2000, and the 2000 is more accurate than the 3000 and the 60s'. Not taking away from the "dirt and warmth" that the older MPC's have, but the 60/3000 are the only MPC's that sound different. The 4000 doesn't sound much different from the 2000 unless your REALLY analyzing and comparing sounds. Basically, all these machines sound the same when a song is playing, and no one is studying a wave form to figure out what machine made a beat.
Give them ears back to walmart and buy some sense.

The MPC 2000 is thin as hell. Surprised you have'nt heard that before. It is very Metallic sounding. Laying is something the new guys do to over compensate the Thin sound on the newer machines (MPC 2000 & 2000xl). Get yourself a 3000 or any old Akai S Series sampler and get your drums knocking without the layering ****. One Kick, One Snare. Done

not entirely true... if u sample in ONE thin kick and ONE thin snare u cant make either knock without sum kinda surgery ... u get out what u put in, no matter what machine ur using

I don't know why some of you make this more complicated than it really is. Kev Brown's snares hit pretty damn hard and he uses a 2000XL. Waajeed, Ta'arach, Pete Rock, Black Milk, Divinci and a bunch of other use it also. I'm not debating on sonically how the MPC2000 sounds compared to anything else because every machine has some subtle difference, but when I sample into an MPC2000, it never sounds like a Yamaha DX-7 (which does sound metallic). and I'd bet any of you $100 if I sampled a fully mastered song onto an MPC2000 and you walked into the room, not one of you would know that it wasn't playing directly from a cd or an album. I've made countless tracks on the 2000XL and it's sound quality has never been an issue at home, in the car, or when I'm rockin' a show.
Y'all need to stop being so critical about the sound of any drum machine unless there is a DRAMATIC difference. The only drum machine that stands out is the SP-12/1200 and that's because of the noticeable ring-mod type sound it adds to all it's samples. Besides that, every drum machine ever made will sound exactly the same to the CONSUMER who really don't give a crap about technical details, and the SP-1200 does not sound $900 better than a lil MPC500! What I mean by that is if all I had is $1200 in my pocket and I wanted to make beats, I'd be pretty stupid to overlook 32 polyphony, 128mb ram, USB connectivity, 100,000 note capacity, effects for the sound 10 seconds of SP-1200 ring-mod when you could jump on craigslist, cop a used MPC500 for $300, and buy an Emax-1 for $200, keep $700 in my pocket, and basically get the same result.
I think most of you just believe the hype, or want to believe it so you have a reason to spend some money. The MPC2000 is a very sufficient machine, and yes it could do with a lil help from external devices for things like filtering, re-sampling etc, but if you do two REALLY simple things like buy an SP-303 (or anything to mangle samples) and use a free program called Audacity, your imagination will be limitless!

roxstar wrote:I don't know why some of you make this more complicated than it really is. Kev Brown's snares hit pretty damn hard and he uses a 2000XL. Waajeed, Ta'arach, Pete Rock, Black Milk, Divinci and a bunch of other use it also.

and none of them is going direct to disk from the MP, they all are using EQ, compression, etc