SP-1200 sound bite?

you can convert to 12 bit on the mpc, it makes it dustier but it dont have the same circuitry as the sp1200.

H.L.

I'm glad that you find the "sound" with the sample rate... Keep in mind that you can also re-sample on the SP1200 ... So Sometime what you eared could be under 12bit 26.040Khz...

Yes you can convert to 12bit on ya MP ... but don't forget about Sp's converters and analog filters !!!
There's a site where you can download same samples from a MP and from a SP, so you can compare ...I don't remenber the link yet ...

SP1200 really doesn't sound like an MP...even not the MPC60 cuz it's a "fals" 12bit engine. The MPC60 internal or external, I don't really remenber, rate bit is 14bit...It caan sound like a SP def. not !!!

Peace 2 yall.

there is really something about Emu converters and stuff .My e64 ( not 6400 or ultra , just half an Emulator IV ) is a 16 bit sampler but has really a special sound that i love .very underrated in my opinion ( bought mine for 200 $ )

There's something about SP's converters fi sure... Those converters aren't manufactured anymore, the reason why E-mu stop to release dem. They use the last aviable ships for re-issue the SP1200...

On other E-mu samplers, I think it's more about E-mu's filters den converters...

Big up from the W.I.

Buy an MPC or some fu*kin software!

there is a reason new technology comes out all the time!

lol

YEah, it's because it never quite matches the cherished older gear!!

They don't make 'em like they used to, and they no longer make them for the same reasons either.

elmacaco wrote:YEah, it's because it never quite matches the cherished older gear!!

They don't make 'em like they used to, and they no longer make them for the same reasons either.

I was joking........but ppl will argue forever about shiz like this.........how many post have there been about this?.....where ppl would complain or suck off the sp.....or try to be tech king and talk about the converters...it is cool that these ppl are knowledged on these machines like that....but one thing a lot of ppl forget....this is music.....as long as it gives you a good feeling at the end of the day...who gives a f*ck what it was made on.........they only make more gear because of the musicians wishes.....when the sp came out there was cats who was saying "I wish it had more sampling time,I wish it didn't have that "sampling" sound to it, I wish there were more Midi Implementation, and etc."......you have true musicians out here but then you have cats who are never satisfied because they are only thinking about the gear.....because ppl spend too much time thinking about what they can't do with their gear instead of what they can do with their gear......cats like pete rock could've been added more midi and a MPC-60 to his setup 10-15 years ago...but didn't cuz he was thinking about what he can do with his shiz..... I'm good on speaking for now!

I figure that vintage gear (such as the sp1200) is so great because:

1. The sound has imperfections caused from the analog circuitry. This is basically almost unavoidable with the analog circuits of yesterday. The imperfections in turn basically create a more musically pleasing and original sound. This is why the sound on the sp1200 has that grit and grime and all that.

2. Companies back then were mostly trying to create totally new and original pieces of hardware rather than trying to emulate older ones...Granted most new pieces came about by building off of existing technology. But for example a lot of synths that come out these days are trying to copy vintage analog synths. However nothing can really replace a good old fashioned analog electricity box, especially not dsp or analog modeling or whatever. It comes close but the harmonics are just not there. Its the same exact thing with the sp1200. A sample of an sp1200 cant capture the "imperfections" of the analog. it just doesnt move the same amount of air.

Just as a JazzBass cant sound like an Alambic...

i agree wit prah.
dont get too caught up in the gear, especially if you have something totally capable of producing something dope.

Sunday I put a 2 second sample in my MPC2000xl and it took forever (around ten minutes, maybe more!) to convert to 12-bit; when it was finished it definitely had the distortion but I think it lacked in warmness.

I didn't experiment too much after that with trying to bring out any warmness but I plan to

Until then... I'm still halfway there