Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By concepts Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:53 am
Im talking about the feature that allows the ability to play a bass velocity with just the pressure of your fingers and not the impact velocity. Hope this is clear. i know the 2500 has this.
Thanks

Edit: changed tittle to suite topic more clearly.
Last edited by concepts on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:59 am, edited 3 times in total.
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By 64hz Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:52 am
Im not sure what you mean, but if you mean that you want to control the volume of your bass sound with several pads.... yes it is possible.... also the 60 has velocity sensitive pads.... Hope this helps?
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By Lampdog Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:21 am
to make it clear, on the 60, can you press and hold the pad while pressing harder, softer, never letting up off the pad and play pressure basslines like that? that's the way I read it. I don't know but I think this was the question.
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By Lampdog Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:46 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftertouch

http://www.thetesseract.org/~ebayer/midi/#basics_aftertouch

What is aftertouch?

Aftertouch is the notation given to pressure sensitivity on a keyboard. This is different than the initial parameter velocity in that it is the application of additional pressure after the key is already down. Many more expensive keyboards have aftertouch. Generally this is tied to some parameter that makes the sound more harsh (though sometimes the opposite.) This means that let's say you have a cello, by leaning on the key harder that's already down the note might get louder and harsher, thereby simulating bowing. Aftertouch comes in two varieties, channel aftertouch and polyphonic aftertouch. Sometimes these are also known as "channel pressure" and "key pressure" respectively. Channel aftertouch is by far the most common in keyboards due to its more simple (and therefore cheaper) design. This means that the aftertouch is global to the MIDI channel and leaning on any note causes an acoustic change in all notes. Polyphonic aftertouch means that each note can have it's own seperate aftertouch. Keyboards with polyphonic aftertouch are extremely rare and generally valued.
By concepts Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:53 am
For 1, you can loop a sample and play it continuously like it was just one long sample. Example, grab a bass, set the loop point (some where in the middle of the sample), not the start point. When you are done setting it up, play the sample applying after-touch, it will loop and change to the current pressure on the pad.

2, you can use the note repeat to play a sample more realistically by applying more or less pressure without having to lift your fingers to change velocity/impact. Like a real hi hat or a drum roll.

It also sends AT so you can use it with an external module.
By peezie Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:48 pm
mpc 60 does not have after touch. dont get it mixed with velocity. note repeat does not work in the same principle. note repeat only changes the velocity of the next note played. After touch affects the sound during a note's duration, not the note played afterwards. after touch is not implemented nor necessary for drums, which mpc was designed for. the sequencer, however will recognize after touch information, but it's not recorded from using mpc pads. Check how it works on a keyboard, then compare if the mpc does that. First of all, mpc 60 does not even have a fully implemented sampler section to play notes like keyboards can. There is no sustain and looping long notes, so how is playing mpc pads going to give you after touch? To prove mpc does not have after touch, play a long sample, modulate the pad. Do you hear volume change? NO. no after touch.
By concepts Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:50 am
This is correct, my mpc60 MIDIed to an external patch with aftertouch does not work. Thanks for clearing that up. The note repeat method is a form of after-touch though, and i am guessing this is the same method used on the newer mpc with loop points? Or are the new mpcs after-touch equipped? Thanks for the clarification.