those anyone know how J DILLA

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Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By Dunnerz Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:58 am
4dahaterz wrote:
Suave1 wrote:I feel U J-Tawn everybody always thinkin J Dilla was original but he wasn't he stole someone else's style studied it and made his own style...the problem with this site is most people on this site is quick to say learn your own style but I see nothing wrong with learning Dilla's style or anyone else's because no matter what you do you will never be "Dilla".....I'll say this and be done with it....EVERYONE STOLE FROM SOMEONE, I DONT CARE WHO THEY ARE, NO ARTIST, PRODUCER, SINGER, SONGWRITER ETC....EVER CAME UP WITH THERE OWN STUFF THEY ALL TOOK SOMEONE ELSE'S STYLE AND MADE THERE OWN. Everyone on this site has been inspired by someone and has stole there style to some degree and made there own style.


un uhhh.... not me... Im original :lol:

This is really starting to become an issue lately, and that is the dumb negativity on the forums... its ok to be negative peeps, but its not ok when you dont have anything beneficial to support that negative comment. Some people just are going to hate just because thats them... so dont let that stop those of you who are trying to open and expand your minds


if you made a **** uop beat, youd still be taking other peoples styles for instance: timbo and bjorks work, sounds messed completely but its effective in some ways still

Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By djestouff Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:13 am
on some of the 303 beats, i think he would punch in and out between a few different patterns while recording live. you can do something similar to this on the mpc by recording a few different patterns on different tracks of the same sequence, and then muting one while unmuting another on the track mute screen. so if you have 4 different patterns, you can make an even greater number of variations depending on the point at which you switch from one to another. if i'm not mistaken, unlike on the mpc, you can switch from one pattern to another instantaneously on the 303, as in you dont have to wait until the next sample is triggered on the new pattern after muting the current pattern.

Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By Mr Guiness Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:14 am
Honestly though , you when you put in enough time , things will just start comming to you . Nowadays , I get drawn into the feel and melodies of peoples beats rather than what they do technically cause the technical stuff is easy but you can't fake a feel . I used to be amazed at how Primo and Pete Rock put joints together , but now it's like - I understand they overall know how to make that heat becuase of their ear and all of that recording experience .

Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By Ldizzy Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:40 am
Jay Dee tracks have a charactersitic bounce and what u have to understand is that even though he diluted it by the end (im talking considering a chronological order of his prod releases)... his characteristic swing is what gives his style uniqueness.

the drums had somehow what i refer to as the ''detroit bounce'' (cuz a lot of people bounce in similar ways in the D) ... and then notes were hitten in a very soulful fashion...

i hear wanna-be dilla beats with soft ass drums (like he did on donuts) and chopped up shits... and i can damn tell those kids didnt listen to old dilla prods... always makes me laugh !

i think this post has a very generic message :

most of them sick beatmakers end up doing drum patterns that arent EASY to hook but that arent THAT complicated (as in too many sounds with reverb and a lot of whack shit all over to cover the essential whackness of the beat)
we, bboys and bgirls, refer to this as '' TIGHTNESS''

Then, when u have ur specific bounce, u can develop a way of hitting notes in that bounce...

and THEN, at the apex of ur sh it u develop melodies that confirm that style (think Dilla, Neptunes, Timbo)... and that actually add to the whole picture ur trying to paint...

so, IN OTHER TERMS :

1. mess a lot, play a lot, choose ur sounds (i c kids choosing their drumkits within 2 minutes = ugly!!!)

2. -turn that quantizing shit off, for shiva's sake

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Oh and as for dilla, i remember rumors back then saying he always recorded sumthin like 120 bars lol... dont EVEN WANNA KNOW IF ITS TRUE, i just know he didnt use quantizing and he kept his shit fresh as in patterns + sounds that went in the sense of what he wanted.. and always very basic, i mean, he reduced it to ''BOOM, CLAP, BOOM, CLAP''

Ill end up by replying to those who dissed the post that dilla bate pete rock's ass on a lot of prods, thats what we call... takin it to the next level....

learn, but just dont stick too long on a specific style.. ull get ur own shit
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Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By turntablewillie Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:42 pm
bicedidit wrote:wait, so who's this 'dilla' character u guys speak of?

Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By MalcOverflow Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:57 pm
bicedidit wrote:wait, so who's this 'dilla' character u guys speak of?


Dude use google. And then at least pretend like you know whats up.....

Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By Gusto16 Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:13 am
MalcOverflow wrote:Dude use google. And then at least pretend like you know whats up.....



J-Tawn wrote:and this guys from new york birth of hip hop thats kinda crazy


With posts like this, how could I ever get sick of this forum? :lol:
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Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By Coz Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:50 am
AMP FIDDLER a well know musician in detroit introduced Dilla to the MPC and the rest is history...so AMP FIDDLER is responsible for the DILLA u know...


WOW, that's a pretty cool fact right there my man! Maybe that's also a mini lesson for everyone here...

If you make Hip Hop, then look outside of Hip Hop for inspiration. The same can be said for House, Techno, Drum & Bass, Breaks, Rock, Funk or whatever style you happen to produce. If you confine yourself to one style then you may struggle to make your mark.

Just listen to what's out there at this minute... Motown with Hip Hop sensibilities, House music with early 80's influences, Grime with Trance overtones. It's all pretty crazy really! 8)

Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By peezie Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:30 am
if you're really that hungry and yearning to learn, you'd figure all that shlt out on your own. it's not that hard, if you use your ears. get off the computer and practice more fool.

J-tawn wrote:first of i really think you guys need some glasses or some brains on how reall ****** evolve in this game.. its called STUDYING dog you try to lern the ways of the legend to help guide you to your unique sounds.. im sick of thease dumb **** talkin out they ass .. EMINEM to study rhymes he memorized the flow of others and then he eventually got the hang its the same thing i find ways to improve my prodcuction everyday IM HUNGRY for this its my life . mannn seriously sometimes this forum


this forum what? nobodys forcing you to stay. what a tool.

so WHO is this dilla guy?
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Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By J-tawn Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:39 am
peezie wrote:if you're really that hungry and yearning to learn, you'd figure all that shlt out on your own. it's not that hard, if you use your ears. get off the computer and practice more fool.

J-tawn wrote:first of i really think you guys need some glasses or some brains on how reall ****** evolve in this game.. its called STUDYING dog you try to lern the ways of the legend to help guide you to your unique sounds.. im sick of thease dumb **** talkin out they ass .. EMINEM to study rhymes he memorized the flow of others and then he eventually got the hang its the same thing i find ways to improve my prodcuction everyday IM HUNGRY for this its my life . mannn seriously sometimes this forum


this forum what? nobodys forcing you to stay. what a tool.

so WHO is this dilla guy?


:shock:

if you keep painting pictures from no experience with out any though to how to move the brush or how to mix your colors like the legends do yes you will figure it out on your own eventually if you lern the thecniques and then let start your experience of painting you will go much further!

YOU have 2000 posts on this forum and you dont know J dilla please put two in your temple. his only one of the greatest hands to touch an mpc just that
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Re: those anyone know how J DILLA

By Housemaster Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:21 am
I was reading the dictionary last night and came across a term foreign to me: "sarcasm"
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