eqing drums

ok for any cats who are eqing there samples.. i heard dre in an interview sayin he always eqs his drums before he samples them to the mpc.. i was wonderin what the best way to eq my samples would be, i have a mackie 1604 vlz (dunno if it really counts as an eq, high low mid ?) and nuendo 2...
anyone got tips with what they do ?

I record every sample dry on the MPC. If I eq and stuff I transfer the sample via USB (MIDI/SCSI in your case) to the comp, so I dont have to worry about the soundcards' convertors messes up the samples' sound, and put it back into the MPC after compressing and eqing.

erkl wrote:ok for any cats who are eqing there samples.. i heard dre in an interview sayin he always eqs his drums before he samples them to the mpc.. i was wonderin what the best way to eq my samples would be, i have a mackie 1604 vlz (dunno if it really counts as an eq, high low mid ?) and nuendo 2...
anyone got tips with what they do ?

The Mackie boards are quite good for EQing, but not the best. Any parametric or even virutal EQ would give you more fine-tuned control. That, and some excellent headphones like the Sony MDRs or the Audio Technica MTFs. I've been shopping for a couple of EQ sets for seperate purposes myself and love the DBX brand, very straightforward, very detailed. I have a very basic 16-band EQ now that does the job decently, but after trying a parametric I was totally through, lol. So, I'd say use any 16-band you have now--even go as far as to compare the Mackie to whatever else you have--and shop for a good parametric EQ.

Oh, and dude, your avatar scared my little niece man!!

its the pain cuz the 60 is really hard to swap samples back and forth between computer, whats the best method to eq, turntable > eq > mpc ?
turntable > computer > eq > mpc ?

also, is parametric where you choose the specific frequencies ? vs just high/lo/mid ?

thanks

erkl wrote:its the pain cuz the 60 is really hard to swap samples back and forth between computer, whats the best method to eq, turntable > eq > mpc ?
turntable > computer > eq > mpc ?

also, is parametric where you choose the specific frequencies ? vs just high/lo/mid ?

thanks

EQ/Turntable...EQ them before you sample anything at all. I know it's tedious, but time shouldn't be an issue when it comes to learning and putting out our best efforts...PLUS, I will tell you this, lol, all that spinning back the record and EQing really tunes your ears to all kinds of details you may not have noticed before, trust me. I know it sounds reaaal slow, but when you start getting the quality you truly want before you even touch the MP, it'll be worth it. The texture possibilities are endless. Don't forget those headphones either!

And yes, you're right about parametric. You have total control over very, very, VERY specific frequencies. It's almost a self-education in sound, lol...

I run the sound turntable-mixer-eq-MPC 60.Last but not least I have my monitors connected directly to the MPC.Thatway whatever sound that comes out of my monitors is exactly what the MPC will sound like once I do decide to record a sample.The thing with sampling from vinyl is that in the analog days the mastering was often times very bad to say least so from record to record or even song to song on the same record there are big diffrences in sound quality.I used to be all about just buying disk with drums all ready on them but I have found that one can create(If you can call sampling and then tweaking creating) their own very unique percussion sounds by manipulating the sound using some very basic equipment like a compressor,eq and reverb.

i thought of this as an ideal setup, mpc 60 > motu 828 > computer, where i could eq each output of the mpc in nuendo, seperatley..
think that would be good as anything ?

i got a cheap parametic eq (im not gonna name brands - but its real cheap and rhymes with sauce) running inbetween my dj mixer and my mpc/s950, it cost me about $60 and i can shape drums pretty hard with it.

erkl-

the motu into computer is pretty much what I do - it works but don't forget the other techniques. I often eq before sampling to get the raw sound right first. I use the mac mainly for compression and rev/delays etc. Variety is THE spice.

yeah i hear you, its just, since i got my mpc, i LOVE it but its slowed my beat production down alot.. i used to just load up everything in nuendo 2, now im spending alot more time working with samples

which is its own learning experiance im goin through, but i think if i had digital control of each output of the mpc itd be a nice balance

it is

and if you have a mac i can 110% recommend the motu 828mk11 - plug eight outs to eight ins - very simple, and youve still got two mic pres to use for sumfink else. heard a few nasty stories about motu drivers and pc. RME are apparently rock solid on pc.

ps - your beats writing process may have slowed down, but aren't they just right now it don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing.

RME are like 3 times the price tho..

sorry - just seen you are in the US - they are priced similarly over here in Sweden.

this review is of the pci based motu interfaces, but it might be of interest to you...

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/a ... a48fc76bf4

btw. my 828 11 works superbly and would 110% recommend. (G4 DP1.25 OSx10.2.8 )

So don't buy a Motu 828Mk2 and connect it to my XP-PC is that what y'all sayin?

just sayin check it out b4 parting with all that cash...