REASON NN-19 OR NNXT?

what is a wanker? is that mom's middle name or what? please explain.

mwalker, I just need to tell you that you honestly detract from my enjoyment of a site that is otherwise very useful and entertaining to me. I have avoided this place during periods when you are acting up, and checked back from time to time...
For a little while there you seemed to make an effort to play nice with the other kids, but if you are back at it again with your unsolicited testimonials I will have to be ghost, and I will miss this site..
I know some will say, don't read his posts, but I can't tell what threads you post in until I am inside, and anyway it's something like the way people tend to slow down and look at the carnage when there is an accident on the side of a freeway... Your antics are disgusting but hard to ignore...
I keep hoping you will just come to peace with the fact that some people use a different method than you to express themselves... It doesn't hurt you when we bang on pads, and it doesn't hurt us when you click on your mouse... The difference is, has anyone on here ever tried to convert you? Have they resorted to personal insults in order to do so, or written essays to you about their accomplishments in order to demonstrate that you would never amount to anything unless you based your production around an MPC? Not that I have seen. Please evaluate your reasons for being here. And if you are powerless to change your behavior, please do not sign up for new 2000xl pay site. I will pay $50 a month to have an MPC resource where I am not subjected to your campaigning. Honestly my friend, your diatribes would be better suited to a soapbox on a street corner than here.
Peace and blessings.

sorry you feel that way but i do not handle name calling well. i am not a clown or wanker. i have both hardware and software but software is what happening now. i would never sell my hardware because it will make a come back (hopefully) someday. i do not think that i am right or wrong but the name calling is not for me. so, instead of name calling i like to get into what can a individual do musically (just to let them know that they are using name calling to hide the facts of their own musicianship). period. what keeps me grounded is "THE BEST IS YET TO BE BORN". so, basically who am i? no one. but if you start with the name calling well ... anything goes at that point. i agree to disagree but do not call me out of my name. period. if you are from the hood you know calling someone out of his name will get you f'ed up in a hurry. aight.

Check your own posts. Half the treads you've posted in ended with beef. Ask yourself why?
Now check the rest of the forum, no trouble or namecalling anywhere.

This forum would be a better place without you.

ieism wrote:Check your own posts. Half the treads you've posted in ended with beef. Ask yourself why?
Now check the rest of the forum, no trouble or namecalling anywhere.

This forum would be a better place without you.

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You know theres a problem when somebody that happy gets pissed off.

OK MY POST END IN A BEEF BUT I DO NOT CALL NAMES UNTIL SOMEONE STARTS FIRST. YOU GOT AN OPINION AND I HAVE ONE TOO. WHAT MAKES YOURS BETTER THAN MINE AND VISE VERSA? AS FAR AS THE BOARD BEING BETTER WITHOUT ME THAT COOL BUT I WILL LOGON TOMORROW TO SEE WHAT IS UP IN THE MPC WORLD LIKE I DO WITH CUBASE, NATIVE INSTRUMENTS, PROPELLERHEAD, KVR, SONY (ACID 4), REASON STATION, HARMONY CENTRAL, ESPN, STAR LEDGER, USA TODAY, NEW YORK TIMES, NEW YORK DAILY NEWS AND SO ON. PERSONALLY, AS A HUMAN BEING I DO RESPECT YOU IEISM BUT AS FAR AS MUSIC GOES WELL YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS BECAUSE I WOULD BE CALLING YOU NAMES AND I DO NOT LIKE NAME CALLING UNLESS SOMEONE STARTS FIRST. SO, YOU HAVE A NICE DAY AND I WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW AND NEXT DAY AND THE DAY AFTER THAT. OK? IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD THE INTERNET IS FOR EVERYONE AND IF I WAS SOOOOOO BAD I WOULD HAVE BE BAND. SO, I GUESS SOME OF WHAT I AM SAYING IS LEGIT. OK CUZ? SAVE YOU COMMENTS UNTIL MONDAY I AM ON MY WAY TO ST. THOMAS NOW I HAVE A GIG AND BY THE WAY I THINK I WILL BRING MY LAPPY/STUDIO WITH ME TO MAKE SOME MUSIC ON THE BEACH.

I am asking for no more replies to this link. If you would like to reply about the NNXT and its uses or how to control and send messages from the MPC then that is fine. Please no more personal beef. Let us make muisc.

uh, yeah so, ummm, OK - I like the NN XT, but the NN19 is cool to - soooo, yeah, OK, I didn't know it was that serious but i guess it is

You guys do know there are still starving Ethiopians and J Lo got married again - seriously

We're all in the same gang, I'm a Vietnamese Crip and my man is a Chianese Blood - it's all love though right?

Increase the PEACE for the beats at least!

Sure there are more parameters in NNXT. Like the man said, you're still restricted by the DA converters on your sound card. Not only that, much of the magic in sample manipulation is in the real-time processing of a sample. The idea of patching through Malström filters is in the right direction. Still it's not the same as jacking a knob on a harware sampler in (or out of) time with a track. Not to mention the "accidents" we discover fooling around with stuff. The mouse doesn't afford that kind of spontaneity. Control surfaces, you say? By the time you've assigned the knobs to the functions you believe you want you may have forgotten what you actually sat down to do in the first place. Plus, how many people actually "sample" with these soft samplers? Just as i thought...not many.

The closest thing that i've heard to interesting beats done in Cubase or Logic were with a plug in called Miracle Beats. Not the same as working with the MPC at all. Still, really interesting.

JPW

Most soft samplers don't actually sample, you have to load files. The emulator X does tho.

trkkazulu wrote:Sure there are more parameters in NNXT. Like the man said, you're still restricted by the DA converters on your sound card. Not only that, much of the magic in sample manipulation is in the real-time processing of a sample. The idea of patching through Malström filters is in the right direction. Still it's not the same as jacking a knob on a harware sampler in (or out of) time with a track. Not to mention the "accidents" we discover fooling around with stuff. The mouse doesn't afford that kind of spontaneity. Control surfaces, you say? By the time you've assigned the knobs to the functions you believe you want you may have forgotten what you actually sat down to do in the first place. Plus, how many people actually "sample" with these soft samplers? Just as i thought...not many.

The closest thing that i've heard to interesting beats done in Cubase or Logic were with a plug in called Miracle Beats. Not the same as working with the MPC at all. Still, really interesting.

JPW

I would have to throw your whole argument out based on a theory called Ableton Live

You get the same accidents on the CPU in a program like Reason - but even like your hardware you have to be patient with the results - when the computer strikes the chord your looking for you may or may not change your mind about it - until then keep jacking it bro...

You guys are making the exact point that i was stating. With Reason, i am tweaking knobs and using the mouse and key controls and after a while this gets boring. I tried using Ableton, but soon got bored of that because it didn't have enough capabilities for i am thinking of doing. Truthfully, i just want to get to work and put out some hot records. I originally created a beat with REAKTOR, then i did a little live mix of the track(transfered it to a laptop so i could work on the road).In NUENDO I took out the parts i want to use in 8 bar sections for loops, but now i want to have those as well as RECYCLED versions of those 8 loops. I will use a variation of NN-XT, DREX and MALSTROM with these loops and splices. I will use the EFX plugins in REASON and then ppplug all of this into CUBASE and the onboard VST. I ask you when is enough, enough. I keep thinking,"LETS JUST GET TO WORK". bored... too many choices.
LOL!

You live in Miami - did you go to the REMIX Hotel over the spring - I did and learned one thing...to keep it simple

For the kind of music I'm making (Techno) Ableton, Reason, the MPC and a bunch of vinyl records work for me - I used to have all those synths and outboard hardware - sold it all to upgrade my computer

If your getting bored then something else is going on...it's not that you have too many choices...they all do the same thing - it comes down to your desire and determination to make a "HOT RECORD"

Programs like Ableton and Reason make it less complicated and cumbersome in getting your idea down before you get distracted trying to load a sample from a old zip drive so the juices stay fresh - but hey, stop smoking weed and drinking and see what happens - then again you may not smoke anything and alcohol is not a problem...your just plain bored

i have to admit that i have never tried Abelton. Reason i've worked with extensively. From what i understand about Ableton it's very much like working with the E4 series samplers. Am i totally wrong about this? Miracle Beats is a one stop solution to drum programming. It's like, the drums are covered now i can concentrate on other stuff.

I've said it many times, i'm a musician not a sys-admin. I sit down in my studio to make music. I do not need the distractions that come with computers. Extension sets, irq's, latency, lock ups, not to mention the sound. Not satisfactory. There is a reason why one UA 6176 will set you back as much as your entire ProTools LE (including computer). The value of my MPC2000Xl has not depreciated much since i bought it new in 2000. Computers i own from that period (especially Macs) are next to useless now.

Besides, hardware samplers come with effects. The Yamaha A5000 appears to be amazing in that regard. I don't see how to work with NNXT in the same way that i would work with a full blown hardware sampler. Can anyone explain to me how to do this? As far as i can see, all you can do with a soft sampler is load and map sound files. Maybe applyfilters. Am i missing something significant here?

trkkazulu

Virtual systems are great and they emulate alot of outboard gear pretty well, the only thing may be difficult is the use of the mouse instead of knobs and the overall congiuration of your computer. It takes some time to set up and getting to know your computer and even when you have it running, there are little things like software conflicts and memory cache.

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