5000 vs. MV-8800 and 5000 vs. 2500 w/jos

Tell me what yall think

whats more of a beast? best workflow? best sound? best effects? most functions? etc...

5000

mv-8800

2500 w/jjos

I'm just curious what kind of feedback this will get, give me details and reasons for your opinions

well i have a 2500 with jjos, and its dope
get things laid out real quick

the 5000 seems to be having OS problems, i wouldn't jump on one right now
and the MV i have played with it a few times in GC and Samash and can't never lay anything down with it

what problems did u have with the MV when u were at gc and samash?

Were u like confused at the interface and controls cus you are more accustomed to the mpc interface? just curious, how is the swing and sound of the mv8800?

InspectahEX wrote:what problems did u have with the MV when u were at gc and samash?

Were u like confused at the interface and controls cus you are more accustomed to the mpc interface? just curious, how is the swing and sound of the mv8800?

no problems with the machine, the problem was me not able to figure out how to use it
i couldn't even load a sound

Hi people,
This is my first time writing at the forum. I actually have the MV8800, a MPC2000xl, and while my cuz is at war I have his MPC4000. To me the MV does have a serious learning curve but once you have the basics down, there's nothing that you can't do with it. I gonna try out the 4000 to see how it handles.

The workflow of the 5000 is **** fast

The sound is dope.

I tried the MV8800 & i find the 5000 much better.

The 5000 effects are really better than the 4000 & z8.

Arp on the 5000 is very usefull as well as synth.

I don t do HIPhop but for my music is the perfect beast ( electronic )

I used to have 2500 for 2 years and i can see why 8800 can seem little strange.. i didn't like it at the beginning, first week i was little disappointed because i couldn't make anything fast. but ofcourse .. it is so much different. but right now i love it, i have been using it for 8 months and i feel like i can't go back(although i have mpc 500, i had a good deal).. this has OS 1.00 and no single bug or error had bugged me since the day i purchased this machine.

I'm working without quantization so i haven't found any quantize problems yet. Pads are little different, they response different way, but i got used to it. Best thing in this machine is the sequencer and the work flow i think.. it's really fast when you learn a little.. it's nice to sample in through 12bit effect (which has very nice options for making your sound).
Overall effects are so much better, resampling is easy.. Choppin is way more better than in 2.5k, i'm not sure if 5k has non destructive choppin but mv has it, that was a great thing when i was coming from 2.5k. i can't even explain it but after little playing with this machine i wondered why i hadn't bought this before.. and no rza or jermaine dupri didn't help me buy this.. i think i had a little doubt because they have this but yeah.. i could manage with mpc which has 2mb ram but i'm using this cause i feel like i have so free hands. although my beats take diskspace about 5mb each.

so i have to vote for MV although i haven't tried 5k, only read about it.

Ive got both the mpc 2500 and the 5000.
For me ive gotta stick with the 2500. The 5000 is a monster, agreed. Its got some awesome features like the synth. But if they cant be worked or modulated properly i find its more of a damn hassle having it, then not. The mpc 5000 weighs out the 2500 as far as features go, for the moment tho...the 2500 rules in practicality and use.

temetrepo wrote:no problems with the machine, the problem was me not able to figure out how to use iti couldn't even load a sound

Nobody has walked up to the MV cold and made it work because it's not an MPC. Unfortunately this where we usually say F it. If a salesperson or other user is present to help you can get the basics of the machine in less than 5 minutes.

If you were able to check out the Roland video on the basics you would have sat down and got much better feel of box. For me it was matter of letting go of my 4000 habits. Once done the machine opened up. Check the basics video and the Workshop doc that translates MPC term to MV. That can make things so much easier. The learning curve is highly overrated but the unlearning curve can be pretty steep depending on how entrenched your MPC habits are .

Then there's also the YouTube tutorials.

Which machine is most beastly for Hip Hop Production?

lmao
the roland mv has the most votings and this on the akai mpc forums

I owned the MV for about a month. I think people make a bigger deal out of the learning curve thing than it actually is.

The MV is a robust machine and offers alot of features, it's not meant to be a machine that can be learned inside and out within the first 5minutes of sitting with it.

Best workflow and best sound are subjective.

I think MPCs have there own unique way of doing things which leads to certain habits and tendencies in workflow. There's definitely an Akai way of doing things and then "the others." If you are stuck in the MPC way of thinking then the MV might be slightly more of a challenge to grasp and get comfortable with.

I think alot of it has to do with the GUI. I also think that the MV feels more like working with a traditional software DAW. Things are organized and laid out very linearly and you view things as more of a timeline.

The MPC has a little more ambiguity. You don't visualize the arrangement of events in your sequences and just the most pertinent information is shown, albeit very clearly and well-organized (in my opinion).

I think the 2500 and the MV are both relatively transparent. If anything I would say that the MV has a slightly higher fidelity.

Features: The 2500 with JJ OS2 is quite robust and goes beyond the potential that I thought the 2500 was capable of having.
The MV has tons of features but I also kind of feel like they can go unnoticed unless you read the manuals.

FX: Plain and simple the MV has better FX. During the short time that I had the MV, I was extremely impressed with the sound quality of the FX. They seemed very professional and usable. Although I can't speak on the 5000 because I've only fiddled around with it for probably just a half hour at GC, I feel like most of the FX that come with the Akai MPCs are just there for novelty purposes. Kind of like Akai just threw them in there for the sake of being able to advertise that they have FX.

I got rid of the MV. it wasn't because I thought the MV was a crappy machine. I really wanted to keep it. I just thought it was too much in every which way. The major reason was that it was literally gigantic and took up too much space on my desk. I also kinda felt like it felt too similar to a DAW and offered all these features and specs that are great but I felt they were meant for someone who doesn't want to involve the computer at all with their process.

Thanks for your insights on the MV Tohtruck.
In fact I'm thinking about getting a used mv8800 at the moment cause I'm unable to get a decent MPC 3000 in germany/europe.
But I went with pro tools a half a year ago so I think the MV could be too much then + you have too learn a new machine and like you said:

I think MPCs have there own unique way of doing things which leads to certain habits and tendencies in workflow. There's definitely an Akai way of doing things and then "the others."

But the thing that's buggin me out the most is that I would have to spend the same amount on the 3000 as on an almost brand new with tons of fatures MV8800 Which is crazy!
But I like to keep it simple and love the MPC 3000 which i had before so I know how to use it other to the the MV.

But I'm still not sure with which machine i gonna go with, at the moment I stuck with none and that's bull shit.