4k and 5k Workflow

No two people are alike and I definitively believe two individuals on the same machine will get different results according to
their ways of working the gear. On the other hand if they both work the same way alot of similarities can be discovered.

For the ones who wish to try state your claim on how you work.


Is it real important for my music NO!! But if you wish to post or argue have at it.

It is cool just talking about workflow how do you work with your tools simple stuff.

I think workflow can either make you or break you. Always bogged down with technical issues will kill this in a minute.

I mostly have my daw as the central hub. I have my 4k setup to do whatever I need it to, 'cause it acts just like any other synth/module in my arsenal, but also can take charge to leading things if you know what I mean.

What I love about the 4k, is it's ability to interface with your daw and make things that much easier when it comes to off line editing (Aksys), it's reliability to help keep your ideas flowing, and its build quality...enough said.

Great post and appreciate it. I work my DAW and soft instruments plus with 24bit sampling my 4k and DAW instruments work hand to hand. I have many of the features requested in other threads I have already installed. I sequence everything with my 4k and also control the software parameters via my 4k`s qlinks. Just for starters.

Blue Haze wrote:I control the software parameters via my 4k`s qlinks.

I'm feeling ya on that B. Maybe I'll experiment with that one day and see if I like it (kinda got away from doing the hands on stuff).

However, I don't utilize my 4k to it's fullest potential needless to say. Actually, I never use any of my mods, samplers, or keys to their fullest potential. I like to blend different flavors from different sources so that things won't fall all on one device, which to me depletes it of it's resources.

But I'm loving how I can load anything from my DAW to the MPC. It cuts the hassles of having to audition & work with stuff on the machine vs. being able to see, hear & edit from your computer.

good post...i dont use the 4k, im on the 2500 but i have been expirienting controlling reason with the mp...i really like it cause it keeps everything digital but i still get the sound of the mpc sequencer. the only thing is im getting a bit of latency...do any of you guys use modules like battery within your daw and use the mpc to sequence? i dont have any soft synths like battery yet but im wondering how the latency is doing this sort of thing...anyone have a workflow like that?

Blue Haze wrote:Great post and appreciate it. I work my DAW and soft instruments plus with 24bit sampling my 4k and DAW instruments work hand to hand. I have many of the features requested in other threads I have already installed. I sequence everything with my 4k and also control the software parameters via my 4k`s qlinks. Just for starters.

ROCKNOID wrote:good post...i dont use the 4k, im on the 2500 but i have been expirienting controlling reason with the mp...i really like it cause it keeps everything digital but i still get the sound of the mpc sequencer. the only thing is im getting a bit of latency...do any of you guys use modules like battery within your daw and use the mpc to sequence? i dont have any soft synths like battery yet but im wondering how the latency is doing this sort of thing...anyone have a workflow like that?

Have you tried lowering your s/c's buffers?

lowest ive tried is 512...i'll try lower next time i get a chance. it's not a huge deal, i just set the time shift to 2 ticks early when i am programming a track that is controlling reason ...then i just quantize the mpc internal sounds and my keyboard tracks as i normally do, 0 ticks early/late. when i do this is sounds perfect...problem is i have to quantize....my unquantized hits sound out of time for obvious reasons....

dabmeister wrote:

ROCKNOID wrote:good post...i dont use the 4k, im on the 2500 but i have been expirienting controlling reason with the mp...i really like it cause it keeps everything digital but i still get the sound of the mpc sequencer. the only thing is im getting a bit of latency...do any of you guys use modules like battery within your daw and use the mpc to sequence? i dont have any soft synths like battery yet but im wondering how the latency is doing this sort of thing...anyone have a workflow like that?

Have you tried lowering your s/c's buffers?

ROCKNOID wrote:lowest ive tried is 512...i'll try lower next time i get a chance. it's not a huge deal, i just set the time shift to 2 ticks early when i am programming a track that is controlling reason ...then i just quantize the mpc internal sounds and my keyboard tracks as i normally do, 0 ticks early/late. when i do this is sounds perfect...problem is i have to quantize....my unquantized hits sound out of time for obvious reasons....

dabmeister wrote:

ROCKNOID wrote:good post...i dont use the 4k, im on the 2500 but i have been expirienting controlling reason with the mp...i really like it cause it keeps everything digital but i still get the sound of the mpc sequencer. the only thing is im getting a bit of latency...do any of you guys use modules like battery within your daw and use the mpc to sequence? i dont have any soft synths like battery yet but im wondering how the latency is doing this sort of thing...anyone have a workflow like that?

Have you tried lowering your s/c's buffers?

Yes I do use battery 3 and other drum synths with my 4k. This is a better link for DAW integration. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=97274

Any 5k users wanna talk about workflow?

Well since you asked nicely....

The workflow of the MPC 5000 is pretty much the same as MPCs producers have grown to love. Everything is logically laid out and you will be up and running in no time at all if you are comfortable with any MPC.

But talking specifically about feature...the hard disk tracks function has so much promise. You can mixdown your MPC sequences/songs as well as external synths (if connected to the MPC using input thru) to the hard disk tracks. You can export these tracks as 24 bit files to import into your DAW. You can also export your DAW tracks into the MPC. USB 2.0 connection from the MPC 5K to your computer makes this a breeze to do.

Askia Shaheed wrote:Well since you asked nicely....

The workflow of the MPC 5000 is pretty much the same as MPCs producers have grown to love. Everything is logically laid out and you will be up and running in no time at all if you are comfortable with any MPC.

But talking specifically about feature...the hard disk tracks function has so much promise. You can mixdown your MPC sequences/songs as well as external synths (if connected to the MPC using input thru) to the hard disk tracks. You can export these tracks as 24 bit files to import into your DAW. You can also export your DAW tracks into the MPC. USB 2.0 connection from the MPC 5K to your computer makes this a breeze to do.

So you are sayin you run your external Roland synth right into your mpc as audio tracks? Hmmn I do everything in the box mostly with Korg, Logic, and samplers. How are your recording levels and routing to auxes? I do mine mostly in my DAW. I have exported internal synth tracks yrs before out of my DAW to the 4k and sequence but I took it as too much MPC on the brain and just do it all mostly inside my DAW rather than rerecord all of that stuff back into my DAW. Yeah the USB on the 4k is still 1.1 but I still have no problems if I wish to transfer samples and loops over Aksys for editing on Bias Peak when I sample off records and CDs. Working with Bia Peak I can loop seamlessly and I can set up loop points at zero points hit save and it set up in the 4k if I wish. But I tend to like I said before do all of that in the box 24 bit EXS and soon to be Konkact 3.

Normally...my MPC and sound modules are connected to my digital mixer running into my PC/Nuendo.

But since the MPC 5K has audio tracks, I have been playing around with doing them onboard the MPC when I don't feel like turning on my computer. My Fantom G is connected digitally to the MPC 5K. I set the recording levels from the Fantom. Obviously I can use the Fantom's or the MPCs effects. But normally, I use the effects in my DAW.

So..how do you get the audio from your MPC and other hardware into Logic?

Askia Shaheed wrote:Normally...my MPC and sound modules are connected to my digital mixer running into my PC/Nuendo.

But since the MPC 5K has audio tracks, I have been playing around with doing them onboard the MPC when I don't feel like turning on my computer. My Fantom G is connected digitally to the MPC 5K. I set the recording levels from the Fantom. Obviously I can use the Fantom's or the MPCs effects. But normally, I use the effects in my DAW.

So..how do you get the audio from your MPC and other hardware into Logic?

My soundcard is the ole Digi002 but I use it mainly as a midi interface for my Mackie controller I eq, effects, arrange and just about everything in my DAW. I mostly transfer my drum kits into exs or ultrabeat layer with the included kits with my custom hits and bang it out sequencing with my 4k everything. Until I have dedicated hardware preamps the digi 002 has 4 built in but they are alrite. It is easier to transfer them in with logic I have the sample rate set at 48Khz which would automatically transform them to a higher rate and using my own autoload get a preset for my sampler patch of the day. I sound design my soft synths sometimes or download presets from logic users net. I use the DAW effects along with my purchased third party effects which I`m training on usage with MacProVideo lessons. Reverb and compression I use mainly.

This is very similar to how I work with Logic Studio except I record the midi into Logic afterwards. My man Digga dumps into Pro Tools. It is a great site Digga has setup and I like his production too. Now don`t catch feelings over the 5k comment ha, ha just focus on the workflow techs.


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