Key features for a hypothecial OS2

moyphee wrote:Blue Haze: What you see in those videos is the VGA output on the back of the MV. It connects to directly the monitor but not a separate computer. It is pretty dman sweet regardless.

Thank you and yes it would be very sweet indeed, however if you are familiar with the 4k Aksys program and other Roland products too they all connect to a larger computer screen by usb. The 4k`s Aksys improved GUI along with audio editing, arranging, and mixing would be a dream come true for a real standalone mix in the box unit without almost any need for a DAW.

We already have DAW keyboards that have the same setup along with rack synths like virus, waldorf, Roland Sonic that does these actions as we speak. But it is a dream request not a true necessity to program and make music in any mpc.

Truth an MV can loop tracks like a DAW by cursor just like the variable track length request above on the monitor.

Truth an MV gives you the ability to move audio regions track to horizonal and verticallly track by cursor just like a DAW on the monitor.

Now I`m no advocate on buying a MV( I hate the sequencer love the MPCs) but an improved AKSYS customized for the 5k would be a dream come true for me. Just my opinion. Love it or not it would work wonders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRZtldE6RaY


I actually learned alot from DaMadman back in the day even though we have different tools and different views but we still have one thing in common the dream to make beautiful music. So i communicated before with the cat and posted up some of his videos. I workaround doing the same thing just in Logic now. To work the same way in an MPC via a large monitor would be the icing on the cake.



But not really necessary. The basic OS improvement first and if Akai is reading think about this.

Blue Haze wrote:

moyphee wrote:Blue Haze: What you see in those videos is the VGA output on the back of the MV. It connects to directly the monitor but not a separate computer. It is pretty dman sweet regardless.

Thank you and yes it would be very sweet indeed, however if you are familiar with the 4k Aksys program and other Roland products too they all connect to a larger computer screen by usb. The 4k`s Aksys improved GUI along with audio editing, arranging, and mixing would be a dream come true for a real standalone mix in the box unit without almost any need for a DAW.

We already have DAW keyboards that have the same setup along with rack synths like virus, waldorf, Roland Sonic that does these actions as we speak. But it is a dream request not a true necessity to program and make music in any mpc.

Other Roland products? Like the XV-5080, Fantom XR, Fantom G ,etc? Yes. I know because I own or have owned them. And the way they integrate with a computer is nothing to rave about. The sample tools function of the Fantom XR and X6 is horrible. The way the Fantom G connects to a PC is nothing special. All the new workstations are being made to integrate with PCs better. Your statement that Roland products connect to a larger computer screen via USB is not very accurate. MV connect to a larger monitor via VGA port. Other Roland products connect to a PC via USB. Again, the software that comes with the Fantom series is terrible and I never use them.

Aksys is ok. However, if Akai worked out something with Native Instruments, the makers of Battery,....I would be impressed.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:

moyphee wrote:Blue Haze: What you see in those videos is the VGA output on the back of the MV. It connects to directly the monitor but not a separate computer. It is pretty dman sweet regardless.

Thank you and yes it would be very sweet indeed, however if you are familiar with the 4k Aksys program and other Roland products too they all connect to a larger computer screen by usb. The 4k`s Aksys improved GUI along with audio editing, arranging, and mixing would be a dream come true for a real standalone mix in the box unit without almost any need for a DAW.

We already have DAW keyboards that have the same setup along with rack synths like virus, waldorf, Roland Sonic that does these actions as we speak. But it is a dream request not a true necessity to program and make music in any mpc.

Other Roland products? Like the XV-5080, Fantom XR, Fantom G ,etc? Yes. I know because I own or have owned them. And the way they integrate with a computer is nothing to rave about. The sample tools function of the Fantom XR and X6 is horrible. The way the Fantom G connects to a PC is nothing special. All the new workstations are being made to integrate with PCs better. Your statement that Roland products connect to a larger computer screen via USB is not very accurate. MV connect to a larger monitor via VGA port. Other Roland products connect to a PC via USB. Again, the software that comes with the Fantom series is terrible and I never use them.

Aksys is ok. However, if Akai worked out something with Native Instruments, the makers of Battery,....I would be impressed.

Other Roland Products just like I said use usb not the MV. No need to make mountains out of mole hills.







DaMadman does and he is pretty proficient at it just a difference of users level and usage on the same units. I don`t really care about which product is used just the right implementation of the software integrated with the hardware. Nothing to catch feelings over just an idea for the boys at Akai to consider if they wish to make a truely all in one unit to really break all users from the DAW market. If they are up to the challenge. As for as Battery shitt if a Aksyslike program was realized that could incorporate third party apps and plugins like that ah, ah, ah whatyoucallit Po Low Da Don uses I forget it`s name. It would be all over. I would sell everything I got and get the S series 5k in a heartbeat.

Just a dream deferred. First update the problems the current model has first akai. My dream mpc made be prontotype for a 6k who knows.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Tp4PzYa3k

Blue Haze wrote:
Just a dream deferred. First update the problems the current model has first akai. My dream mpc made be prontotype for a 6k who knows.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Tp4PzYa3k

Which would end up costing 5 stacks($5,000) for the MPC 6K, the real flagship

4dahaterz wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:
Just a dream deferred. First update the problems the current model has first akai. My dream mpc made be prontotype for a 6k who knows.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Tp4PzYa3k

Which would end up costing 5 stacks($5,000) for the MPC 6K, the real flagship

Yeah that is about right, but then I wouldn`t need all the other gear in my studio cuz that is 6gs worth of stuff right there to sell and use only one.

Blue Haze wrote:

4dahaterz wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:
Just a dream deferred. First update the problems the current model has first akai. My dream mpc made be prontotype for a 6k who knows.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Tp4PzYa3k

Which would end up costing 5 stacks($5,000) for the MPC 6K, the real flagship

Yeah that is about right, but then I wouldn`t need all the other gear in my studio cuz that is 6gs worth of stuff right there to sell and use only one.

Yeah, i feel ya

first off:


Much like how FL Studio's Edison allows you to simply highlight a section of a sample and drag it using another icon, thus leaving the original sample completely unaffected...


I wouldn't mind being able to highlight a part of a sample i wanted and assign it right then and there to a pad, without having to manually save it first. Lets say you had a James Brown sample.


It would be pretty ill if you could set a default program name/sample name of "JBrown"

and highlight one section, choose to assign to a pad, press the pad and the pad becomes "JBrown01" the next one you select, "JBrown02" etc.


--this isn't farfetched, FL Studio does this with Edison, automatically--






another feature:


being able to preview and multi-select samples to load into a program (example: a button having the same function as the CTRL + MOUSE CLICK function on a PC)....that way if you have a folder with 20 sounds and you want 12, you can highlight them all.

then you get a prompt asking to assign the 1st pad...u press the pad and voila! it assigns...then the prompt for the next sample to be assigned...etc.





third feature:


Choosing what you want to "autoload" rather than having to dump/save everything you want in an "autoload" folder.

Hi there,

My background is more like electronic dance music than hip hop, so some of my ideas might seem a bit weird...

1. A vocoder - MPC5k has mic input, flexible FX unit and built-in synth, it should be not too difficult to implement. A vocoder could work with HD recording, so you can record your vocoder performance while listening to the beat. Some sort of vocal FX would be good, too - formant shifting, etc.

2. Ability to record sysex, so that one does not to rely on computer to load the patches to external synths.

3. Software editor/converter working via USB with the ability to load S1000/3000/5000/6000 programs and many other formats (something like AkSys - might be difficult as MPC5k does not have sysex implementation of its own)

4. Ability to make patch lists for external synths. I mean, you can select the patch now via MSB, LSB and Program Change, but not by name. Such patchlist is most of the times a txt file (= small). It would be great to be able to prepare such patch list on computer and save it on MPC's HDD. Then, when in a MSB/LSB/PC field on a midi track, one would load the patch list and select programs by name. If, for example, "Synth Lead 1" is choosen from the list, MPC would send the appropriate MSB/LSB/PC message, according to the given patch list.

5. Another synth engine available. The synth section in MPC5k is from what I know derrived from Fusion engine. Fusion can do a lot more than just VA. It would be great to be able to have FM synth AND VA synth onboard, so that you can choose any one of those or both (with limited polyphony, due to DSP resources) on a per song basis.

Cheers,

Mac

Synthdance wrote:4. Ability to make patch lists for external synths. I mean, you can select the patch now via MSB, LSB and Program Change, but not by name. Such patchlist is most of the times a txt file (= small). It would be great to be able to prepare such patch list on computer and save it on MPC's HDD. Then, when in a MSB/LSB/PC field on a midi track, one would load the patch list and select programs by name.

Cheers,

Mac

I like this one.....

I wanna change mine....


1. Everything the MPC 4000 can do

Reason: So that issue would be resolved about us being better and the flagship officially

2. Keep all the features that the MPC 5000 can do and will do in the near future

Reason: Cause its not a bad MPC just limited in a few ways, that would be solved for me if I did have a lot of the features of the MPC 4000, such as 512 mb RAM, keygroups, etc....

3. Realtime Timestretching (DJ Style)

Reason: What I mean by this is, you know how a DJ's turntable or CD Deck can take a whole song and slow it down, Speed it up, Change the pitch up or down, and blend in other songs, or etc... this $hit would be live on the MPC 5000, to actually manipulate a sample like this while sequencing or recording.

4dahaterz wrote:3. Realtime Timestretching (DJ Style)

Reason: What I mean by this is, you know how a DJ's turntable or CD Deck can take a whole song and slow it down, Speed it up, Change the pitch up or down, and blend in other songs, or etc... this $hit would be live on the MPC 5000, to actually manipulate a sample like this while sequencing or recording.

The Q-link sliders can do this now unless I am not understanding your correctly.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

4dahaterz wrote:3. Realtime Timestretching (DJ Style)

Reason: What I mean by this is, you know how a DJ's turntable or CD Deck can take a whole song and slow it down, Speed it up, Change the pitch up or down, and blend in other songs, or etc... this $hit would be live on the MPC 5000, to actually manipulate a sample like this while sequencing or recording.

The Q-link sliders can do this now unless I am not understanding your correctly.

nah, thats not what im talking about... If im using a DJ deck with a CD or MP3, you can can change the bpm and keep the same pitch... Thats what im talking about.

4dahaterz wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

4dahaterz wrote:3. Realtime Timestretching (DJ Style)

Reason: What I mean by this is, you know how a DJ's turntable or CD Deck can take a whole song and slow it down, Speed it up, Change the pitch up or down, and blend in other songs, or etc... this $hit would be live on the MPC 5000, to actually manipulate a sample like this while sequencing or recording.

The Q-link sliders can do this now unless I am not understanding your correctly.

nah, thats not what im talking about... If im using a DJ deck with a CD or MP3, you can can change the bpm and keep the same pitch... Thats what im talking about.

OK. I see. That is along the lines of what I wrote earlier:

2. Real time timestretch and pitch shift of continuous sample tracks or hard disk tracks

If we could set these tracks to sync to the sequencers tempo without impacting pitch or changing the pitch while maintaining the current tempo..this would be an awesome feature. This is another feature that caused me to go out and pick up a Fantom G. In fact, if the MPC 5K had my top 2 feature requests, I would have purchased just a sound module instead.

The JJ OS for the MPC 2500 has this feature that does this called Extra Audio Play. But you can't do anything with it. You can't record it. You can't play it with other tracks. Only if Akai can expand on this feature

It would also be great to have the mpc work like an mpd32 controller through the usb connection
being able to control live, or logic MIDI wise through the usb.