good records to sample snares?>

IM frustrated already
Im trying to make my snares crisp loud and punchy but aint got the slightest clue how to start
anyhelp?
I wish there was some magic kit!

www.mpc-samples.com

everything you need

http://www.akaipro.com/int/mpc1k/arc_kotw.html
If you get just one or two, try
- Akai XR10 - based on lotsa MPC3000 samples, punchy as Muhammed Ali
- Rod Kit - interesting
- Brush Kits - my personal fave, not the punchiest, but smooooth.

stereoroid wrote:http://www.akaipro.com/int/mpc1k/arc_kotw.html
If you get just one or two, try
- Akai XR10 - based on lotsa MPC3000 samples, punchy as Muhammed Ali
- Rod Kit - interesting
- Brush Kits - my personal fave, not the punchiest, but smooooth.

thanx 4 the help but I preety much downloaded all of them and th xr 10 is very punchy but I gotta make it extremely loud to make it bang

Have looked toward compression and EQ, or using two samples on one pad (whilst being careful of phase).

One thing I've learnt over time is not to get frustrated at results that don't sound as proffessional as you may hope. It all comes down to $$$

hazeyamind wrote:
thanx 4 the help but I preety much downloaded all of them and th xr 10 is very punchy but I gotta make it extremely loud to make it bang

bloody hell! I was going recommend you find some old Yes records with Bill Bruford, but that's more sharp and ringy than punchy... how about renting the Rocky movies and sampling the sound effects? The very definition of "punchy"...

stereoroid wrote:

hazeyamind wrote:
thanx 4 the help but I preety much downloaded all of them and th xr 10 is very punchy but I gotta make it extremely loud to make it bang

bloody hell! I was going recommend you find some old Yes records with Bill Bruford, but that's more sharp and ringy than punchy... how about renting the Rocky movies and sampling the sound effects? The very definition of "punchy"...

lmao
I want some Crisp snares that sound like they are gonna slice off your ears when you hear them and some deep kicks that sound like they gonna slam your brains in. But I guess we all want that huh?

You can get what you want, but you will probably need an eq. plugin (or hardware) and let the frequencies you want scream through. Oh yeah,... and turn it UP!

MidnightFlyer wrote:You can get what you want, but you will probably need an eq. plugin (or hardware) and let the frequencies you want scream through. Oh yeah,... and turn it UP!

what would you recommend
SOmebody from another board recommended a seperate compressor which I was thinking of buying just for my drums

Concertmate wrote:One thing I've learnt over time is not to get frustrated at results that don't sound as proffessional as you may hope. It all comes down to $$$

Exactly. People have to remember that these CDs they're comparing themselves too...those are being worked through the best outboard gear money can buy, mixed and mastered on million dollar recording consoles by the industry's top engineers, and mastered on the best equipment.

Frankly wrote:

Concertmate wrote:One thing I've learnt over time is not to get frustrated at results that don't sound as proffessional as you may hope. It all comes down to $$$

Exactly. People have to remember that these CDs they're comparing themselves too...those are being worked through the best outboard gear money can buy, mixed and mastered on million dollar recording consoles by the industry's top engineers, and mastered on the best equipment.

which is why u can sample them,
But Im trying to find some records TO sample

Yes, but the quality of the sound will still change. The cables you use, the A/D converters, the pres, etc...all different, likely lower quality than what the big wigs are using.

But...to answer your question, I will sample drums off any hip hop song with a bangin' drum hit. I sample Dre a lot. You can also go the other route and sample off of old records, which I also do. You can get real grimey sounds, but you will need to know how to filter/EQ, compress, etc to get it real bangin'. Afterall, that's where pretty much all hip hop producers get their drums, the difference is they're running those samples through the best gear. The samples that they sell here are processed on Urei gear I think. Worth checking out.

use a compressor (hardware or software) to make your snares sizzle.

turn the ratio to about 4:1
short attack
short release
threshhold at about -3 to -15, (the lower the threshhold, -15 being lower, the more squashed the snare signal gets)

by "squashing" the snare you cut the peaks out of the signal, and can help avoid clipping. Raise the output from the compressor, and you will raise the perceived loudness without including dangerous clipping...
hope this helps

professor wrote:use a compressor (hardware or software) to make your snares sizzle.

turn the ratio to about 4:1
short attack
short release
threshhold at about -3 to -15, (the lower the threshhold, -15 being lower, the more squashed the snare signal gets)

by "squashing" the snare you cut the peaks out of the signal, and can help avoid clipping. Raise the output from the compressor, and you will raise the perceived loudness without including dangerous clipping...
hope this helps

thanx alot man Im gonna try it the minute I get home
im going digging today to find me some dope records in the dollar bin

make sure to play with the settings. these figures are in no way set in stone...