Why sample off of records when you could use cd's?

Im a keyboard beat maker that want to start using samples a lil more and i was wondering whats the big deal with diggin when it comes to records why not just go to the store and buy a old 70's or 80's artist title on cd....i was just wondering whats the deal with records...my father has over 1000 oldie but goodie but on cd. I mean do it got to do with the sound of it when its on a record or something...or is that the cd stores dont have everything that you could find on a record....help me out......yea i know records are cheaper too now days. Dont forget im trying to learn something so dont take as im tring to be a smart azz or funny!

Who said you couldnt....but.....

ive sampled of cd and dvd and at times it comes out to shiny FOR MY PERSONAL TASTE......so if your going for a pop sound, best to sample of CDs.

also, the whole point of diggin is looking hard for some obscure ish, thats usually isnt available on CD. plus you get that sound.

This is the way I look at it. When I dig for samples I'm trying to find something that basically went unnoticed by the majority. Rare, obscure, unique. If its been re-released on CD my assumption is that it's already been recognized. Imagine all the singers and musicians that never made it big in the publics eye, who's careers died on the shelf.
Another reason I prefer records is because of the way they can be manipulated. I sample ev'rything sped up to save memory. I can jump to the part I want to sample with ease. Scratch it up.... spin it backwards, whatever.
Price is another factor. I can get 5 records for a dollar.
I do sample from CDs tho... I don't exclude any sources. That clean sound can alwayz be dirtied up. But vinyl is my weopon of choice.

Like Dj Shadow said:

"People that dig, don't stop digging, because it's a part of who we are"

"People that don't, you don't have to. It's not going to make a bad Dj good. But it will make a good Dj better"

I'd say this applies to a producer as well even though he says "Dj"

Well , I dig because....that's how I was taught. I always sampled off records. Plus , I'm really a dj , quiet as kept. I been making beats since KRS battled Melle Mel. When sampling became a big part of my beat making , I naturally looked to records. Now , like most producers , I would use almost anything as a sound source , however , vinyl , it just have a " feel" to it. It makes a groove funky , dirty all the grime , noises , pops , it all adds a certain character or adds to the character of the sample. Cds are great too , especially when you want something really clear , etc. However records are my top choice as well as the top choice of almost every producer I know or have ever heard on the subject. As a matter of fact , even if I had the cds to 1,000 albums , I'd STILL go buy the records , just because I hAVE to have them in order to feel like my collection is complete.

Like my man above me said, the grit!!

but besides that with the records (and your turntable) you have direct control over your source. Speed the record up/slow down..

i love that shit man

when you find MANFRED SCHOOF QUINTET - "SCALES" on cd let me know. i picked that up on wax one night i was diggin for $1.50. I bought it because the cover looked tight. it is the bomb. it is tight just for listening and has mad sample-ablility. i dig because i can gamble 20bucks on alot of music, and cd's are much more expensive. plus most of the stuff i have bought i have never seen on cd. i got some tight muzak record. plus it just sounds a little sweeter. to me at least.

Basically you can sample anything you want, vinyl, CD, acoustic sounds, the woods, your Mama (j/k although I think some people do, haha). But sampling records is very deep in Hip hop's history. Sometimes the "static" on the vinyl gives you that dirty feel people associate with a hip hop track. It's just a preference, although I know people who sample vinyl and their beats are far from dirty. Digging for vinyl is an art and a culture that can't be overlooked or forgotten by some producers. Personally, I think sampling off vinyl is "the sh-t" and I don't think I'll ever stop using vinyl samples!

All in all, if it sounds dope, it's dope, no matter what you use...

Peace

Its all in what u have and also the originality of the Sampling Game. When sampling started there was no cd's around(or at least within our price range). On vinly inside ones home, u could get on hand records that date back to the 50's and 60's(hard ass vinly that breaks like a dinner plate... some of yall know what i am saying... now thats old). Again without the use of EQ's and Maximizer's, you can get that gritty old sound that use to come out the park speakers when hip hop began(unique 1200, mpc 60 sound). Still the bottom line is Hip Hop cant be defined by any one mans technique...each time a style is created, a newbie will come along with new style and new technique and re-create what we call hip hop. When that morp stops...so shall Our Culture of hip hop.

werd

another point that bears mention is that the vinyl will always have a "warmer" sound to it.
Kinda like I can pick out in songs which were live bass and which were synth, synth/cd /digital medium have a high dynamic headroom, but parts of the sound are cut out, like MP3's only not as bad.

they claim that it is sound that is inaudible to the human ear but I dont think so. If I sample right off a fresh piece of vinyl, and a cd I can tell the difference, not from hiss or crackle (which I elminite right after sampling) but from the feel of the sound.

Vinyl reproduces the ENTIRE sound range as it was recorded, cd's do not. the new "super CD" or whatever sony calls it comes close, but not vinyl. also, if you wanna manipulate a sample manually, you'll have a hard time doing it with a cd.