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By 2500orNothin Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:26 pm
alrite guys i've been trying to look for an answer about how i could record what i'm playing on a keyboard to and mpc, not in the rocord mode but the sequence mode. people always tell me the only way to hear anything is if your in the record mode. still lookin for the answer, but i think theres no hope. anyways i got the mpc midi to my keyboard in and out. everyone tells me the same thing that you cant hear sounds, because midi does not transfer sounds. so i'm wondering how are you gonna be able to record say a bass line with a drum pattern if you cant overdub on the drum pattern, to hear the drum pattern while playing? unless your really freakin good with hearing the pattern in your head with the correct timing. i gotta another question to, if i cant hear sounds from the midi cable then whats the point of me having the midi cables in and out of my mpc to my keyboard. need some help please.


yamaha mm6
mpc 2500
By xibalba1875 Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:48 pm
look up lithion (where the fk has he been at anyways) tutorial on youtube called midi handshake or something close to that its excatily what you need
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By dabmeister Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:12 pm
I play sounds from my mpc all the time, what seems to be the problem? Sounds not loaded, not using it as multi, wrong midi channel selected, etc?
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By SHWELL Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:48 am
MIDI is a standard used by the industry to trigger devices. Use one device to trigger the internal sounds of another device..... Here is a brief description of what you may need to do to get the results you desire.....



You prob know that Midi is not an audible sound producer... It is just a siganl telling your devices to trigger whatever sound is associated with said button/key press.

So when you record into the MPC using Midi, all the MPC is recording is the trigger/signal and not the sound..... In order to record the sounds from the Yamaha, you will need to add a mixer to your setup in order for it to "process" your keyboard sounds.

So if you record a sequence using the MPC/keyboard setup, the sounds you have selected in the keyboard/synth will not be heard unless the keyboard is sending said sounds to your speakers.

I have:
MPC Midi In--->Keyboard MIDIout
Keyboard Midi in---> MPC out
I also have the headphone plug of the keyboard/synth going into a channel on my Mixer (TRS to RCA adaptor)
As well as the Rec outs of the MPC going into another channel on the mixer...

Either one of these adapters is what you will need:
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In order to produce the same sounds again after recording, the keyboard will have to be on in order to play it the way you recorded it. In this scenerio, the MPC will e acting like a sequencer. You used it to record the Midi signals from the key/synth. In order for those signals to become usable audio, you will need to setup your system as I described in order to get the soumds from the key/synth to be played through your system.

I hope this answers your question. This explanation is how my setup is, and it may be totally different for your setup. Good luck. This subject baffled me for a month b4 I figured it out...... I was overthinking it...
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By nicebeats1 Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:14 pm
SHWELL wrote:MIDI is a standard used by the industry to trigger devices. Use one device to trigger the internal sounds of another device..... Here is a brief description of what you may need to do to get the results you desire.....



You prob know that Midi is not an audible sound producer... It is just a siganl telling your devices to trigger whatever sound is associated with said button/key press.

So when you record into the MPC using Midi, all the MPC is recording is the trigger/signal and not the sound..... In order to record the sounds from the Yamaha, you will need to add a mixer to your setup in order for it to "process" your keyboard sounds.

So if you record a sequence using the MPC/keyboard setup, the sounds you have selected in the keyboard/synth will not be heard unless the keyboard is sending said sounds to your speakers.

I have:
MPC Midi In--->Keyboard MIDIout
Keyboard Midi in---> MPC out
I also have the headphone plug of the keyboard/synth going into a channel on my Mixer (TRS to RCA adaptor)
As well as the Rec outs of the MPC going into another channel on the mixer...

Either one of these adapters is what you will need:
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In order to produce the same sounds again after recording, the keyboard will have to be on in order to play it the way you recorded it. In this scenerio, the MPC will e acting like a sequencer. You used it to record the Midi signals from the key/synth. In order for those signals to become usable audio, you will need to setup your system as I described in order to get the soumds from the key/synth to be played through your system.

I hope this answers your question. This explanation is how my setup is, and it may be totally different for your setup. Good luck. This subject baffled me for a month b4 I figured it out...... I was overthinking it...



is this basically the set up for all synths and mpc's
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By SHWELL Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:27 pm
I cannot say that it is for all setups... I am only going off of whatworks for me..... This is info Igot from a fewe peeps, and also all my research led me to this setup based on my equipment...... I have a low end setup,and would hope that hi end stuff would be setup differently.
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By Skinny Doogins Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:57 am
You can record in seq screen on track's 61 to 64.
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By SHWELL Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:33 am
I RECORD THEM IN ALL SEQUENCES..... (SORRY CAPS).... But it is tricky to explain it exactly..... It took me 2 days of experimenting to figure it out...... What I do know is that each midi channel corresponds to diff sounds in myt casio sound bank.......


I select "Brass" on my casio, but the midi channels play different sounds. And depending on which sound in the casio bank I select, it will also go to that seq number. i.e. If "Brass" is number 064 in my casio sound bank, when I select that sound, the MPC will also cycle to sequence 64..... Midi is a bit tricky..... The way I described it earlier is the way to hear the sounds from your keyboard/synth..... I cannot explain the fundamentals of MIDI here.. IT would take all nite to type it up in an understadable way.


First figure out how to get your sounds to play via those recorded Midi triggers you recorded... Then figure out what needs to be what in order for you to play/record the sounds you actually want to hear.....


This is one of those subjects that "trying" as well as reading will get you where you want to be.......

At minimum, you need the KB/synth an MPC and a Mixer for it to work as intended. It took me alot of reading and experimenting to get it rite....


If what I have posted thus far has not helped you, then I am stumped. The info I provided is info I gathered from alot of reliable sources, and since it works for me, I have to say it is correct.
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By dabmeister Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:08 pm
Basically, multi is a more primative way of discribing this discussed scenario. It applies to anything that's multi-timbral capable.

Where as, having any one of the mainstream DAW's, a mixer and a multiport midi interface, will do you wonders when working with a lot of these type of instruments and vsti's.