Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By Iceberg-Slim Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:48 pm
feelin that binger :)
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By binger0 Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:49 pm
and akia tries to make there products be MIDI PRODUCTION STATIONS so they are like all in one centers for sampling and sequicng. Since software production started to get big, akai deveploed gear for some who wants to use their PC with a hardware interface too. But overall the product is being aimed at DJs and begineers.

By balil2 Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:16 am
I hear what you're saying. However, there are other reasons IMO, why Akai introduced the MPC 1000.

If you have synths, samplers, soft synths, soft samplers etc, why would you want to buy a MPC 4k? Granted, there are lots of people that avoid the computer. Perhaps some upgraded from Brand X sampler or consolidated their studio. I think, though, that Akai was feeling the bite from the software side and from groove boxes. MPC 2kXL is rediculously expensive for it's technology. I can understand the cost for MPC 3000 or 60/60 II, but for 2kXL? Where everything is optional?

Akai needed something that fit better with the the modern software DAW based studio. Except for die hards, the cost of the MPC range is incredibly high, with features that overlap what's already available. Look at Ableton Live, now on version 4. Feature for feature, it out classes the MPC's. Time stretching, flexible midi with groove and swing, built in sampler and drum sampler, effects with unbelieveable modulation capabilities. Native Instruments Kontakt - feature for feature the best sampler. Reaktor - synth powerhouse. For the cost of the MPC 4k, one can purchase the Ni Komplete 2 suit, Ableton Live, and hi end PC Cpu, or low end Mac one.

Now, I'm not saying that the soft route is better. I use a MPC 1000 with a Akai S6000, and a Edirol PCR 30 controller. I have some other hardware and some other software, but this is what I use as the core of my setup. I personally bought the 1000 because I didn't need all the features of the 2k let alone the 4k, although I'm sure there are others that do. My point being that I would not have bought the other MPC's. Am I beginner. No. Am I a DJ - well, not any more. The MPC 1000 is the modern MPC - for those whose studio's, for one reason or another, reflect the trend where a cpu also plays an important role in the music making process. It's scaled down and streamlined.

So, I would say that the MPC 1000 us targeted at:
1) DJ
2) Beginner
3) Software/CPU based studio (which makes features of 2kXL and 4k redundant).

And I think that whatever equipment Akai supports with Ak.sys is what they consider "pro". In the case of the MPC 1000 ak.sys isn't supported because of the usb and compact flash of the 1000. Since it doesn't have a full fledged sampling engine (with programs and multis) the 1000 and the 2000 are 'out of' ak.sys' 'league.'

I would like to say that I think that whatever Akai has in store for new MPC's the feature set is going to have to be extrodinary, as in rich and more bang for the buck.

Hi y'all - new to the forum.
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By binger0 Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:49 am
me wrote:Since software production started to get big, akai deveploed gear for some who wants to use their PC with a hardware interface too.


thats what i said too. Im not trying to knock the 1000 or anyone, im just stating what i feel is what akai is doing. Akai also has just released a bunch of audio plugins so they are diversiefying. But the 1000 is computer friendly, but it does not supporting software and other features, like that new shit that the Roland 606 has. So its a step towards the software musiacn, but seein that all it really has on it for software is the usb port. So i dont know if it is a tru "software pc" tool.
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By Blue Haze Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:24 am
I feel binger on your statements about the Akai`s business model which MPCs meet the price range, features, and ease of use for their customers. Just looking at Akai`s US website and others show which models the pros use in a professional recording studio oppose to a home studio. Check out that Beyonce clip. Let`s not forget that the MPCs were studio equipment not orginally marketed for the consumer market like a guitar or other traditional equipment. The MPC 60 was over 5000 bucks when it was first released because for a pro musician making pro money it was at a pro price**** that`s a used car, vacation, college tutiton money right there. Most common people had never hear or saw a MPC until they step into a recording studio and asked the engineer what is that and how do you use it still now? Now everyone can check online, or mag, and such for the studio equipment the pros use. Hardwares` main advantage is that it is expressive, stable, and portable which gigging and recording musicians require. Akai build pro equip for the pros in the beginning expanding into the mass consumer market with the boom of home recording and dance music with the 2000, 2000XL and 1000 models. Still any music that is created with come down to musician ship and programming skills that includes mastery of the process of making electronic music :D
Each new machine, technology makes the process easier with less steps,
(now using timestretching vs cutting each note and realigining the hits to match with a loop which until 1994 was how it was done) but the basics are the same. If you master your instrument with sampling you can use it for 10 to 20 yrs because of the fact you can enter any sounds in it you want. Once you step into an pro studio to work or record your own session lets hope that an all DAW is compatible and doesn`t crash on you when the engineer and the performer what`s to change or rearrange a chorus or part because you struck the wrong key on the keyboard, everyone`s crowded around the screen with you clicking around with the mouse, or you forgot to bring your sound card.

My point is that when you travel, step, and work in a pro studio with a client, and your recording team with you will have less worries and problems recording your music with hardware which is why even today most pros work with hardware and use the software of the particular studio they are recording at which the engineer controls anyway. Master the process of the making music with that knowledge you can use any tool you need. All of the new tools makes the steps easier, but your understanding of the process makes the music. When time is of essense, and dependablity is important you can`t beat a well build, full featured, and reliable hardware tool in a pro studio or in a live performance.

Back to the music part when is the next super producer with their banging sounds coming out.
:D
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By cyrus Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:17 am
Brahma wrote:"O'Behave!" - Austin Powers


WTF LOFL!!!!!!!
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By scizz Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:23 pm
Dos wrote:The rumours are true only the new MP is the MPC-Q

http://www.heat-timer.com/?page=mpc


lol, that shit's too funny
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By Blue Haze Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:06 pm
Talk with Mr. Nakamura of Akai Japan today if all goes well O.S. 1.60 may be out next month. :D
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By Reveal Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:08 pm
':P'lol':D'
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By Iceberg-Slim Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:10 am
If they dropped 1.6 on July 4th, would be one of the best :)
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By ikke Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:27 pm
Blue Haze wrote:Talk with Mr. Nakamura of Akai Japan today if all goes well O.S. 1.60 may be out next month. :D


:o :o :o

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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By boywithpez007 Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:00 am
HAHAHAHAHA DOS that sh*ts even got a SEQ controL!!!!!!!
Pez.