BenHoughton wrote:seriously bedouin how can you be so critical of the 1200s? its not the features that we're after, its the feel, the solidness & build quality, the knowledge that every club you walk into is going to have a pair
Last time I checked, you balance a tonearm on a 1200 the same as any other high end table; the pitch control works the same as any other turntable. I've never approached a 1200 and felt like, "Oh no! What will I do!!!!"
Like I said, some of the other decks are actually
better built than the 1200. Most people would never know though because they're afraid of looking weird in front of their sheepish friends who are on the 1200 is the industry standard bandwagon.
... not to mention resale!!
If I buy a new pair of 1200s I'm not going to get much money for them used when used models are going for like $250 each. On the other hand, check out the resell on Vestax and 150s . . .
If I want to sell a used pair -- yeah, I guess you're right. But then again, that's true with most products. Used value stays pretty stagnant, especially with products where it's impossible to determine how many previous there were.
I mean i'm pretty open minded with these things but in terms of features.. well how many features do you need to mix vinyl? I mean more than 8% is going to sound not that great anyway right?
Well, considering the ST150 has key lock -- that can come in real handy with acapellas; pitch something up 3 or 4% without getting the chipmunk effect. Having higher pitch range should be very appealing to produces; want to see what a sample sounds like sped up by 20% without sampling it into the MPC first? No problem. Want to play a potential sample over a drum pattern you programmed on the MPC without sampling it in, but need to pitch it up (or perhaps stretch it) to sync it up? No problem. Producers should be jumping on better tables before anyone else.
Or let's say I'm doing a tape of breakbeats and instrumentals that sound okay or better at faster speeds. Maybe I have a tight drum break I want to cut up but it needs some extra RPM love. No problem. I've done that on a number of my mix tapes. What if you spin house or DnB? Many of those songs have no vocals and can easily withstand radical pitch alterations.
The way i see it, the 1200s are like the benchmark - if you've got the skills, they'll do the job. Other decks might be more forgiving, sure. But at the end of the day, 1200s should allow you to create the mix you want
Maybe some people have ideas and needs the 1200s can't meet. Maybe they don't like paying top dollar for a product that is technologically outdated and now inferior to models at the same price. Half the people yelling industry standard and insisting it's what you'll encounter at clubs don't even leave their bedroom.
Ok, i'll say it - i've never gotten down with any other brand decks.
But who needs/wants to anyway?
Creative people and ones not afraid of being stigmatized based on their consumer habits.
just my $0.02[/quote]
I haven't heard bad things about their hybrid turntable either.
