Sampling - Dj premier

Just Curious Droopy But where did you hear the neptunes use Reason? All their synths are hardware. They Use alot of vintage synths Chad has a room with like 10 keyboards and vintage synths.

Phedeks,

I've read on Keyboard & EQ magazine that The Neptunes use reason.

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gams

Gambles wrote:Phedeks,

I've read on Keyboard & EQ magazine that The Neptunes use reason.

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gams

which one?

Gambles wrote:Phedeks,

I've read on Keyboard & EQ magazine that The Neptunes use reason.

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gams

Really? I know alot of people are incoorperating reason now, Mel Man and Dre do some stuff with reason now. But i've never heard or read anything about the neptunes using it. I've seen several interviews with chad talking about buying vintage synths.

Pra,

I dont remember which months issue it came out on. It came out maybe 2-3 months ago. It gives a list of the equipment The Neptunes use. It also has an article about the recording of Nellys "Hot in here" given by the recording engineer.

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gams

i wanna know whaz da big deal with all this computer stuff(software)...i am a hardware kind of guy

Prah_860_ wrote:i wanna know whaz da big deal with all this computer stuff(software)...i am a hardware kind of guy

Software is amazing! All hardware has limitations, and software has for the most part eliminated the most common limitations of hardware.

being a hardware guy, you know how companys do- they release a scaled down model, a full feature model, and then an upgrade model. Well, software eliminates that as the company will release one version which will do everything.

Polyphony used to be a major issue for producers, and sometimes still is for those who have not migrated to a digital studio. Reason offers a Polyphony of 99 on it's synths! Compare that to the thousands of monophonic synths still used today.

Software is cheaper and often easier to program(synths)
It takes NO space from your workstation, using less electricity- can be upgraded when applicable and you never have to worry about warranty or repairs as you just have to reinstall the application.

Software is the way to go in my opinion, while hardware is still fun to bang out beats and melodies on- you'll eventually need your PC to hack and master your tracks.. why not use your resources and download a Soft Synth?

For awhile I was anti-hardware and mainly worked worked w/ my software/sample collection for composing, but sometimes my wife needs the PC, and I like to carry my gear to other places that why I bought several samplers. Most of my other hardware is strictly sound modules for samplers, and to feed into Multi-tracking apps using midi messages from the software or other hardware.

Download a demo of Pro53,FM7, Traktor DJ, Reason, Rebirth


Reason however is beyond any other application to date (imo)
Alot of producers are using it for the massive ways to work with it.
You have the freedom to route signals anyway you want them, make sounds from scratch, the Redrum drum module is just like a Korg Es-1, and the the NN-XT is one hell of a sampler! It's amazing the things that Reason will allow you to do.

When I first started using reason I would do this..

I would download a commercial midi file DR.DRE

I would mute the drums and add instruments for the synths parts and just start chopping it up.

I would then chop up the acapella's and load them into NNXT/or REX.

anyway- the point is, hardware will limit your production, while software will take you into areas you've never been able to imagine before.

what exactly does this site do, ego? I am more of a stubborn til' the death hardward fellow myself and I am trying to find ways to keep my creativity (to me that is) feeling like MY creativity, not necessarily mastering software applications. Once again I am a self-proclaimed STUBBORN producer...

It's just a midi search engine, and a great way for people to learn about midi and working with software.

Sometimes, when people can see a midi file, and how a composition is laid out- they can learn real easy how to compose their own material.

However, by using commerical midi files in Reason and other apss it's a great, quick way to work on remixes of a track.

For instance, let's say you secretly love some ACE of BASS bassline, and wanted to put that over some drum's you created. Midi allows you to do this really easily. Same concept if you wanted a synth hook, but the way it was mastered you wouldn't be able to pull the hook becuase of a bass line right in the middle or a lyric stab somewhere. We'll by grabbing the midi file- you can isolate that hook- hack it up and change it.

Midi is awesome. As a samplist i've found alot of use for midi

egokilla wrote:For instance, let's say you secretly love some ACE of BASS bassline, and wanted to put that over some drum's you created. Midi allows you to do this really easily. Same concept if you wanted a synth hook, but the way it was mastered you wouldn't be able to pull the hook becuase of a bass line right in the middle or a lyric stab somewhere. We'll by grabbing the midi file- you can isolate that hook- hack it up and change it.

to me, being able to do this almost seems like cheating. i thought the whole point of sampling was to dig in the crates for good samples or to take shitty samples and produce something good, not just be able to pull any part from any song you want. hardware might have limitatations, but these limitations force you to be more creative.

Yeah, I dont agree.

I think the first step in learning, is to abandon any and all rules- as your skills progress and you find your sound, you can discipline yourself.

To each his own though. By the way- that was just an example of what you can do w/midi.

yeah im with ego, that is a way of learning. like when i learned guitar i learned how to play all my favorite songs by other people. this expanded my knowledge of different chord voicings, and cadences, and all kinds of things.

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1. Premier still uses his E-MU SP-1200 for those drums you keep hearing. That doesn't do you any good if you can't work the sampler like he can! That goes the same way for sampling. You must learn how to look for a sample(it'll jump out at you if you are creative & look hard enough).

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its always the ones that post 14 page long messages....

If you want to crunch up your drums use the resample feature (on 2000XL) and turn down the bit rate