BUY VINYL OR CD OF ALBUM $$$ ISSUE

Hi all,

I'm new to sampling off vinyl and i found some records that i know will be good to sample but the problem is they are old and cost 50 bucks for the vinyl but I can get the cd for like 17 bucks.

I was wondering if anyone could explain the benefit of sampling off the vinyl instead of cd, eg - when i have the finished product of my beat what will be the difference?

Thanks for your time and input interested to hear what you think...

"the benefit of sampling off the vinyl instead of cd"

its argued that vinyl has a different sound and more 'warmth', this could be because music is mastered differently for the 2 formats, and that the 2 formats have slightly differnt sonic qualities.

im sure people have a lot of opinions on this, and im not particularly knowledgeable on the ins and outs of it all so ill leave it there.

in my opinion, if the records are 50 smackers... **** it - just use the CD, its preferable to MP3.

have fun.

thanks for the reply appreciate it... I'll also wait around and see what insight others have before i decide. thanks again.

That's a tough call. Like already mentioned, the two sound very different.

I have some albums on both CD and vinyl. You wouldn't think the difference would be much since it's the same music. The two formats give the music such a different character when you compare the two.

I have tried sampling off both the CD version, and the vinyl version. I'd have to say that the vinyl version had more life and oomph in the sound. The CD version made the same music have not as much of an impact.

Also, I had a harder time finding other samples that fit sonically with the CD sample while working within the MPC.

If I were you and REALLY had to have those albums...I'd just try and find them on MP3 until I could find the vinyl for a more reasonable price. If I couldn't find free MP3's I'd go with buying the CD. With the CD, at least you won't have clicks and pops and such, and you can always put fx on the sample, lower the bit rate, eq it to taste at the end of the day anyways.

ONE wrote:That's a tough call. Like already mentioned, the two sound very different.

I have some albums on both CD and vinyl. You wouldn't think the difference would be much since it's the same music. The two formats give the music such a different character when you compare the two.

I have tried sampling off both the CD version, and the vinyl version. I'd have to say that the vinyl version had more life and oomph in the sound. The CD version made the same music have not as much of an impact.

Also, I had a harder time finding other samples that fit sonically with the CD sample while working within the MPC.

If I were you and REALLY had to have those albums...I'd just try and find them on MP3 until I could find the vinyl for a more reasonable price. If I couldn't find free MP3's I'd go with buying the CD. With the CD, at least you won't have clicks and pops and such, and you can always put fx on the sample, lower the bit rate, eq it to taste at the end of the day anyways.

very true one.... since ur 1 of thee few that got real man'z input
respect...

ONE wrote:That's a tough call. Like already mentioned, the two sound very different.

I have some albums on both CD and vinyl. You wouldn't think the difference would be much since it's the same music. The two formats give the music such a different character when you compare the two.

I have tried sampling off both the CD version, and the vinyl version. I'd have to say that the vinyl version had more life and oomph in the sound. The CD version made the same music have not as much of an impact.

Also, I had a harder time finding other samples that fit sonically with the CD sample while working within the MPC.

If I were you and REALLY had to have those albums...I'd just try and find them on MP3 until I could find the vinyl for a more reasonable price. If I couldn't find free MP3's I'd go with buying the CD. With the CD, at least you won't have clicks and pops and such, and you can always put fx on the sample, lower the bit rate, eq it to taste at the end of the day anyways.

awesome man, thanks alot, my gut feeling was what u wrote.

I believe at the end of the day, the love of the music is worth the extra money!

and i feel what u said about sound from cd or mp3, i used a few mp3 samples and while it sounded really good, i just know the vinyl would be warmer and sound way better.

thanks for the input!

Mr. Pleasant: Thanks for the compliment. It's nice to know there are dudes on here that are real and humble. Peace!

Donlong: No Problemo!

just wanted to add one thing..

if you are thinking of spending big bucks on the vinyl, it might be worth downloading and doing a test beat with an mp3 first.
cos sometimes samples that you thing are gonna be sick, can turn out to be hard to work with, or not give you much mileage... might be worth a 'try-before-you-buy' approach...

but then if you love the track in the first place and youre gonna get listening pleasure from the music, then **** it - its time to go shopping!

hope that helps.

Donlong wrote:Hi all,

I'm new to sampling off vinyl and i found some records that i know will be good to sample but the problem is they are old and cost 50 bucks for the vinyl but I can get the cd for like 17 bucks.

I was wondering if anyone could explain the benefit of sampling off the vinyl instead of cd, eg - when i have the finished product of my beat what will be the difference?

Thanks for your time and input interested to hear what you think...

Dig harder and you'll eventually find it cheaper. I almost always do this and find that when I'm patient and willing to wait I find the records I'm looking for cheaper. If I really can't wait I'll look on ebay and usually find some pretty good bargains.

ONE wrote:Mr. Pleasant: Thanks for the compliment. It's nice to know there are dudes on here that are real and humble. Peace!

Donlong: No Problemo!

canada bwoi...

illiterati wrote:just wanted to add one thing..

if you are thinking of spending big bucks on the vinyl, it might be worth downloading and doing a test beat with an mp3 first.
cos sometimes samples that you thing are gonna be sick, can turn out to be hard to work with, or not give you much mileage... might be worth a 'try-before-you-buy' approach...

but then if you love the track in the first place and youre gonna get listening pleasure from the music, then **** it - its time to go shopping!

hope that helps.

Well said, thanks. so true man, i really noticed this already and ive only started. som sound ridiculous then once i chopped it and put it into the mpc it doesnt go that well or i end up using a random sound from the song i chopped and it actually sounds good.

and like u said - worst case u get some nice music to hear!

zapp wrote:Dig harder and you'll eventually find it cheaper. I almost always do this and find that when I'm patient and willing to wait I find the records I'm looking for cheaper. If I really can't wait I'll look on ebay and usually find some pretty good bargains.

yes patience and discipline is the way to go.... always good to learn from ur posts thanks.

also another question - i notice west coast rap producers have sampled funk records alot, but when i hear alot of the songs they sampled there are drums all over the beat (not really a spot where just a synth or bassline with no drums) if that is the case it made me think that the sampling they do alot of the time is pretty much just looping an existing beat (and doubling up the existing drums with their own drums)? am i off the mark with that line of thinking?

Donlong wrote:

zapp wrote:Dig harder and you'll eventually find it cheaper. I almost always do this and find that when I'm patient and willing to wait I find the records I'm looking for cheaper. If I really can't wait I'll look on ebay and usually find some pretty good bargains.

yes patience and discipline is the way to go.... always good to learn from ur posts thanks.

also another question - i notice west coast rap producers have sampled funk records alot, but when i hear alot of the songs they sampled there are drums all over the beat (not really a spot where just a synth or bassline with no drums) if that is the case it made me think that the sampling they do alot of the time is pretty much just looping an existing beat (and doubling up the existing drums with their own drums)? am i off the mark with that line of thinking?

You are on the mark with that.

They also do a lot of interpolation.

ONE wrote:
You are on the mark with that.

They also do a lot of interpolation.

cool. thought so!