Speeding up a chop without changing the tune of the sample

I chopped my sample up.

I know how to change the tune by going to params in shift+trim.

But...How do i speed up the chop without changing the tune of the sample???

Timestretch!

DJ Hellfire wrote:Timestretch!

Word?....Im going straight to read the manual about timestretch then thanks man!!!

By the way Hellfire...dope beats yo

Mad props!

Thanks. Try not to have to stretch more than +/-5% because the sample will start to sound fvcked up.

u should just time stretch before you chop so you dont have to go time stretch each individual chop

eastcoast121 wrote:u should just time stretch before you chop so you dont have to go time stretch each individual chop

Not a good idea in every case, becuase all pieces may not need to be timestretched. The proper way it to chop of the piece you need stretched, then time stretch it. If you timestretch everything together, you'll never match the uneven tempos. However, if the entire sample is the same tempo, but you just want it faster or slower, then yes, timestretching the entire thing is the way to go! Just to clarify!

DJ Hellfire wrote:

eastcoast121 wrote:u should just time stretch before you chop so you dont have to go time stretch each individual chop

Not a good idea in every case, becuase all pieces may not need to be timestretched. The proper way it to chop of the piece you need stretched, then time stretch it. If you timestretch everything together, you'll never match the uneven tempos. However, if the entire sample is the same tempo, but you just want it faster or slower, then yes, timestretching the entire thing is the way to go! Just to clarify!

I would just like to add that bpm matching is 100x better than time stretching in my opinion. And a sh!tload faster.

Man im really trying to fix this problem it's a really dope beat but at the end of the sequence in song mode when im playing the beat it has a slight pause in it which cause it to be off from the start of the sequence again...I chopped it the best i could and that's definately not the problem i spent a whole night dedicated to trying to fix this problem by trimming the starting/ending chops and using timestetch...maybe im just doing timestretch wrong...

I tried to spit to the beat myself just to see what it would be like if somebody spit on it and that "slight pause" really throws you off...

DJ Hellfire wrote:Thanks. Try not to have to stretch more than +/-5% because the sample will start to sound fvcked up.

This is true!

90'sHip_Hop_Head wrote:Man im really trying to fix this problem it's a really dope beat but at the end of the sequence in song mode when im playing the beat it has a slight pause in it which cause it to be off from the start of the sequence again...I chopped it the best i could and that's definately not the problem i spent a whole night dedicated to trying to fix this problem by trimming the starting/ending chops and using timestetch...maybe im just doing timestretch wrong...

I tried to spit to the beat myself just to see what it would be like if somebody spit on it and that "slight pause" really throws you off...

So did you just ignore my post or what?

90'sHip_Hop_Head wrote:Man im really trying to fix this problem it's a really dope beat but at the end of the sequence in song mode when im playing the beat it has a slight pause in it which cause it to be off from the start of the sequence again...I chopped it the best i could and that's definately not the problem i spent a whole night dedicated to trying to fix this problem by trimming the starting/ending chops and using timestetch...maybe im just doing timestretch wrong...

I tried to spit to the beat myself just to see what it would be like if somebody spit on it and that "slight pause" really throws you off...

If there is a gap, that means the sample is too fast. So you need to cut out the part that starts going too fast and slow it down. If the part that goes too fast is it's own sound, and not part of another sound that is not too fast, then you don't need to separate it. If you do need to separate it, you will need to assign the new sound to a pad and record it in the sequence where the sound should be.

To slow it down, you need to increase the percentage in the timestretch screen. When you timestretch, the MPC creates a new file with the stretched sound. Make sure you are reassigning the new stretched sound to the pad where the too fast sound is and see if it fits. If not, delete the that new stretched file, go back to the original sound and adjust your percentage and reassign the generated sound to the pad again. Just keep trying til you get it on beat.

I haven't used BPM match, so I can't advise you on that. I usually cut my needed stretches so the files are small and stretch quickly, instead of stretching a large file.

DJ Hellfire wrote:

90'sHip_Hop_Head wrote:Man im really trying to fix this problem it's a really dope beat but at the end of the sequence in song mode when im playing the beat it has a slight pause in it which cause it to be off from the start of the sequence again...I chopped it the best i could and that's definately not the problem i spent a whole night dedicated to trying to fix this problem by trimming the starting/ending chops and using timestetch...maybe im just doing timestretch wrong...

I tried to spit to the beat myself just to see what it would be like if somebody spit on it and that "slight pause" really throws you off...

If there is a gap, that means the sample is too fast. So you need to cut out the part that starts going too fast and slow it down. If the part that goes too fast is it's own sound, and not part of another sound that is not too fast, then you don't need to separate it. If you do need to separate it, you will need to assign the new sound to a pad and record it in the sequence where the sound should be.

To slow it down, you need to increase the percentage in the timestretch screen. When you timestretch, the MPC creates a new file with the stretched sound. Make sure you are reassigning the new stretched sound to the pad where the too fast sound is and see if it fits. If not, delete the that new stretched file, go back to the original sound and adjust your percentage and reassign the generated sound to the pad again. Just keep trying til you get it on beat.

I haven't used BPM match, so I can't advise you on that. I usually cut my needed stretches so the files are small and stretch quickly, instead of stretching a large file.

Thanks for everything another question is how do i assign the new "timestretched" sound to a pad?

Jacpot wrote:

90'sHip_Hop_Head wrote:Man im really trying to fix this problem it's a really dope beat but at the end of the sequence in song mode when im playing the beat it has a slight pause in it which cause it to be off from the start of the sequence again...I chopped it the best i could and that's definately not the problem i spent a whole night dedicated to trying to fix this problem by trimming the starting/ending chops and using timestetch...maybe im just doing timestretch wrong...

I tried to spit to the beat myself just to see what it would be like if somebody spit on it and that "slight pause" really throws you off...

So did you just ignore my post or what?

Of course not, i read about bpm in the manual but i dont really understand it...

90'sHip_Hop_Head wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

90'sHip_Hop_Head wrote:Man im really trying to fix this problem it's a really dope beat but at the end of the sequence in song mode when im playing the beat it has a slight pause in it which cause it to be off from the start of the sequence again...I chopped it the best i could and that's definately not the problem i spent a whole night dedicated to trying to fix this problem by trimming the starting/ending chops and using timestetch...maybe im just doing timestretch wrong...

I tried to spit to the beat myself just to see what it would be like if somebody spit on it and that "slight pause" really throws you off...

If there is a gap, that means the sample is too fast. So you need to cut out the part that starts going too fast and slow it down. If the part that goes too fast is it's own sound, and not part of another sound that is not too fast, then you don't need to separate it. If you do need to separate it, you will need to assign the new sound to a pad and record it in the sequence where the sound should be.

To slow it down, you need to increase the percentage in the timestretch screen. When you timestretch, the MPC creates a new file with the stretched sound. Make sure you are reassigning the new stretched sound to the pad where the too fast sound is and see if it fits. If not, delete the that new stretched file, go back to the original sound and adjust your percentage and reassign the generated sound to the pad again. Just keep trying til you get it on beat.

I haven't used BPM match, so I can't advise you on that. I usually cut my needed stretches so the files are small and stretch quickly, instead of stretching a large file.

Thanks for everything another question is how do i assign the new "timestretched" sound to a pad?

Go into the program screen (shift 6 i think off the top of my head). Tap the pad you want to put it on, then just go over to the assign field and scroll all the way to the right to the last sound. The newest sound will always be always all the way to right right (unless you sort the sounds in the trimscreen, but that's another topic). But you should be able to find this in the manual easily.