Is the 5000 better than the 2500? with the jjos?

DukeNewport wrote:U know it. Who else would claim the 5000>2500(JJ) & deny Just Blaze posted here. Jahrome

Don't start another one of those.




you know, the idea of throwing a synth in an mpc is genius. I mean think about what you often see. You dig for a sample, chop it, throw a beat down, mash the pads with your chops to make a good sounding sequence... then what? You need to dig for a baseline to chop which can be impossible, (unless you want your track to sound like a cheap remix.. you could take the baseline from the same song as your chops) ... so then most use a DAW/VST or synth for the baseline and addons. Now it's in one machine so you dont got yourself surrounded in piles of hardware.

They should have just put more effort into the OS for the release of the machine, because selling a product to consumers that have faults is not acceptable. Consumers should not have to update the OS to have it work properly. Some people dont know how to download and update the OS and need to bring it to a tech or what ever to get that done.

I find it rediculous that the thing saving AKAI's ass on the newer MPCs... is f**king JJ over in japan making pirate operating systems for their machines for free. It could even be considered pathetic.

Does anyone know if JJOS is copyrighted?

If people can't read a manual and figure out how to download and install an OS...they probably shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on a drum machine. In all these forums you read about how these companies release products with bugs which result in numerous complaint threads..even with people that don't actually own the machines in question. But the harsh reality is that no new workstation performs flawlessly. If you don't like that, then don't buy it and wait for an OS update.

I was a champion of the MPC 2500 that had plenty of hate threads. Now I have moved on to the MPC 5000. I can't see myself going back to the 2500 when the 5K offers so much more with perhaps more to come. For those that believe the 2.5K is better, please feel free to express your opinions in one or more of these threads. With enough noise, maybe future operating systems will give you want you want and need.

Askia Shaheed wrote:If people can't read a manual and figure out how to download and install an OS...they probably shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on a drum machine. In all these forums you read about how these companies release products with bugs which result in numerous complaint threads..even with people that don't actually own the machines in question. But the harsh reality is that no new workstation performs flawlessly. If you don't like that, then don't buy it and wait for an OS update.

I was a champion of the MPC 2500 that had plenty of hate threads. Now I have moved on to the MPC 5000. I can't see myself going back to the 2500 when the 5K offers so much more with perhaps more to come. For those that believe the 2.5K is better, please feel free to express your opinions in one or more of these threads. With enough noise, maybe future operating systems will give you want you want and need.

That's like saying if you dont know how to install a program then you shouldn't spend a thousand bucks on a computer.

some people learn differently. some people cant learn from reading and then trial and error... they need to be tought differently such as visually or being shown. Some also take longer then others.

But on the other hand... some people could be lazy rich brats with too much time and money to blow.

mr_debauch wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:If people can't read a manual and figure out how to download and install an OS...they probably shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on a drum machine. In all these forums you read about how these companies release products with bugs which result in numerous complaint threads..even with people that don't actually own the machines in question. But the harsh reality is that no new workstation performs flawlessly. If you don't like that, then don't buy it and wait for an OS update.

I was a champion of the MPC 2500 that had plenty of hate threads. Now I have moved on to the MPC 5000. I can't see myself going back to the 2500 when the 5K offers so much more with perhaps more to come. For those that believe the 2.5K is better, please feel free to express your opinions in one or more of these threads. With enough noise, maybe future operating systems will give you want you want and need.

That's like saying if you dont know how to install a program then you shouldn't spend a thousand bucks on a computer.

some people learn differently. some people cant learn from reading and then trial and error... they need to be tought differently such as visually or being shown. Some also take longer then others.

But on the other hand... some people could be lazy rich brats with too much time and money to blow.

Upgrading the OS of an MPC is much easier than an PC.

1. Download the OS from Akai's website and save it to the CF card
2. Insert the CF card into the MPC
3. Turn on the MPC while holding down the [2] and [3] buttons
4. After the upgrade is complete...turn the MPC off
5. Turn the MPC on while holding down [Erase} button to re-initialize the MPC

There is a saying..."a fool and his money is soon parted" If one is not intelligent enough to follow those simple steps (outlined in the users manual), they shouldn't spend $2000 on a drum machine but instead go back and get a GED. Akai should add a sticker on the box of the MPC..."For ages 18 & up"

Askia Shaheed wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:If people can't read a manual and figure out how to download and install an OS...they probably shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on a drum machine. In all these forums you read about how these companies release products with bugs which result in numerous complaint threads..even with people that don't actually own the machines in question. But the harsh reality is that no new workstation performs flawlessly. If you don't like that, then don't buy it and wait for an OS update.

I was a champion of the MPC 2500 that had plenty of hate threads. Now I have moved on to the MPC 5000. I can't see myself going back to the 2500 when the 5K offers so much more with perhaps more to come. For those that believe the 2.5K is better, please feel free to express your opinions in one or more of these threads. With enough noise, maybe future operating systems will give you want you want and need.

That's like saying if you dont know how to install a program then you shouldn't spend a thousand bucks on a computer.

some people learn differently. some people cant learn from reading and then trial and error... they need to be tought differently such as visually or being shown. Some also take longer then others.

But on the other hand... some people could be lazy rich brats with too much time and money to blow.

Upgrading the OS of an MPC is much easier than an PC.

1. Download the OS from Akai's website and save it to the CF card
2. Insert the CF card into the MPC
3. Turn on the MPC while holding down the [2] and [3] buttons
4. After the upgrade is complete...turn the MPC off
5. Turn the MPC on while holding down [Erase} button to re-initialize the MPC

There is a saying..."a fool and his money is soon parted" If one is not intelligent enough to follow those simple steps (outlined in the users manual), they shouldn't spend $2000 on a drum machine but instead go back and get a GED. Akai should add a sticker on the box of the MPC..."For ages 18 & up"

good point.

but if I was rich and had kids, (let's over 13 years old) I would get them an mpc instead of a playstation. MPCs are like video games, except creative with a rewarding result.

but I know the frustration of idiots. I am in the computer field, and some stuff I wind up fixing for people blows my mind. I was asked to do a job for my neighbour, he wasn't able to update his AVG definitions. the problem turned out to be... his computer wasn't connected to the internet. it took 5 minutes to fix including starting up the slow ass machine. 40 bucks for me.

Getting back on point, I would like to know why you guys believe the 1000/2500 with the JJ OS is better. Personally, I feel that the JJ OS2's Chop Shop is better as well as the previously mentioned global program editing.

hahaha you know how this is...

ultimate capacity, 5000 is up a notch on the jjos. this is on some empirical greater than lesser than sh!t.

usability and legwork wise, it takes me foreeeeeeever to do the same work on the 5000. while the potential is there, personally i could never make the switch until there was a GPE and a better chop function as askia said.

GPE would be easily done... One thing I wonder is why there is no in-house R&D for a librarian/editor software.

What would be nice if there was a UniQuest-like live editor in PC. Editing PGMs on the fly, without freezing workflow to connect thru USB or anything. This could also potentially be done with MIDI SysEx dumps, making it easier for 3rd party stuff to come out... although I doubt AKAI has thought that far ahead