BUY VINYL OR CD OF ALBUM $$$ ISSUE

Sorry for sounding stupid, but what is interpolation?

When someone re-plays it, and often times changing up minor things, but the essence of the original is still there.

Ah, thanks dude!

damn homie, 50 dollars for a record? that shit better be on FIRE, and you better be able to make like 50 beats from that record.

it's worth noting that the audio on a cd is already sampled to begin with... may or may not make a difference depending on loads of factors.

vinyl has a far greater frequency response, which expresses more harmonics that enable you to "feel" the music...

fobedafied wrote:vinyl has a far greater frequency response, which expresses more harmonics that enable you to "feel" the music...

thanks man...im pumped to start sampling!

dafoost wrote:damn homie, 50 dollars for a record? that **** better be on FIRE, and you better be able to make like 50 beats from that record.

yeah man LOL wanna laugh - i actually realised why it was so expensive it was a record from like 1974 in obscure sth american country and it was an original pressing. the person selling me actually told me the condition was mint but quality of the vinyl used in pressing the record resulted in not so good sound quality. I actually found a repressing of the vinyl for 10 bucks which he told me would be better sound quality! so problem solved for that record!!!!! (but if i had no other choice i would have bought it still for 50!!!)

AskR wrote:it's worth noting that the audio on a cd is already sampled to begin with... may or may not make a difference depending on loads of factors.

interesting comment...

Let me start by saying that I love vinyl, sample off of vinyl more than anything, have hundreds of records, have gone through a few TTs, etc...

The warmth that most people talk of from vinyl is just the pops, clicks, distortion, etc... (which I agree, does sound good). There's also vinyl warmth from using a tube-powered amp, but I doubt any of us have that - but that's the only legitimate warmth.

I think that we have to remember why vinyl is the shit. It's hip-hop. You want to make some beats that you can flow over. You go to the thrift store, grandma's house, etc... and pick up some dirt cheap records that nobody cares about and work magic with them.
But I went up to Columbia MO (MU) and checked out their vinyl - the store was selling vinyl 2 for $10 (commons) and used CDs 3 for $7. This isn't right. I walked out with a stack of CDs, or you could look at it like I spent $21 and walked out with Sun Ra, Medinski Martin and Wood, Flora Pluim, and more, which would be an amazing haul if they were on vinyl - what's the difference? I lose the ability to scratch (but I'm not going to scratch Sun Ra), but that's about it.
True, it is an uncompressed recording into the grooves, but I'm willing to bet that a CD and Record run through the same preamp with a slight layer of pops, clicks and distortion added to the CD would sound identical.
Maybe your cds that you sample "lack fullness" compared to your records because your records run through a mixer first, while the CD just lines in?
Remember when audiophiles were put up to the test and couldn't tell the difference between Monster speaker cables and coathangers? I think a lot of vinyl charm is placebo.

ssnedden wrote:The warmth that most people talk of from vinyl is just the pops, clicks, distortion, etc... (which I agree, does sound good). There's also vinyl warmth from using a tube-powered amp, but I doubt any of us have that - but that's the only legitimate warmth.

you mean something like this: http://www.coemaudio.com.au/Amplifiers/ ... fiers/132/

That would only add warmth to playing music, not sampling into the mpc am i correct (i would love to find a way to add warmth to my sampling....would do it for playback but at 920 AUD i'd rather spend it on other stuff).

Interesting points u make about the placebo effect of vinyl...im suprised there havent been any formal tests on this issue.

ssnedden wrote:Maybe your cds that you sample "lack fullness" compared to your records because your records run through a mixer first, while the CD just lines in?
Remember when audiophiles were put up to the test and couldn't tell the difference between Monster speaker cables and coathangers? I think a lot of vinyl charm is placebo.

I got my Tech 1210 and CDJ-800, and they both go through the same DJ mixer. Of course the 1210 goes through the phone pre-amp in the mixer, but I really don't think that colors the sound too much.

Either way, if you have a vinyl version and a store bought CD version of the same album...give 'em both a whirl and see what you think.

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ssnedden wrote:Maybe your cds that you sample "lack fullness" compared to your records because your records run through a mixer first, while the CD just lines in?
Remember when audiophiles were put up to the test and couldn't tell the difference between Monster speaker cables and coathangers? I think a lot of vinyl charm is placebo.

I got my Tech 1210 and CDJ-800, and they both go through the same DJ mixer. Of course the 1210 goes through the phone pre-amp in the mixer, but I really don't think that colors the sound too much.

Either way, if you have a vinyl version and a store bought CD version of the same album...give 'em both a whirl and see what you think.

A lot of bass in a vinyl record will make the needle jump. Normal bass on a vinyl record will make the needle jump. They hi pass filter something before it goes to vinyl to lower the dB of the bass on a record. Then, your record player goes through a preamp with a RCAA curve which "restores" the bass without making the needle jump (because the bass isn't on the needles' end).

I'm not saying that it doesn't make the vinyl sound better, but it's something that can be done to the CD with a boost in the low regions.
Anything else is probably dust, dirt, etc... (which I happen to think sounds good most of the time).

Even though these things sound good, it's funny to think that a record would be worth substantially more than a CD because it "sounds better" when these are the reasons why it does.

if you're a record collector, then you kill two birds with one stone by buying the vinyl. i all but stopped buying cd's a few months ago. don't want to be the guy polishing the brass on the titanic. analog is superior to digital, but that's beside the point, cause the second you hit the mpc you're digital, but i have found records are the easiest to preview, and cue. greater control over the movement of the media is really helpful in a sampling environment. and props to the guy that posted "a cd has already been sampled" that's a good point. you sample from a cd, and you are automatically re-sampling. better to probably rip the cd, then cut the wav, and drop it unto the flash card.

I heard if you dont sample off vinyl you're a terrorist and kick old people